October 23, 2011 at 11:46 am #255958
I have seen over the years many recommend different plants and vegetables to grow like Taro, waterchestnut, etc
Could you, when you put up what to grow, where you are as some don’t grow in areas.
When reading Linda Cockburns book she grew coffee, at the time she was in Gympie Qu I would like to have a go at it and tea but will it grow in SA on the coast as we are different to Adelaide itself.
I was given Loofa seeds by Rhonda years ago and had no success with them but my friend grew them 25 ks away. I can’t grow passionfruit here but she grows them like mad over there.
I am sure people in Vic and Tas would love to know if it is possible to do it. All the books say one thing but I have heard of Bananas growing in Victoria so It would be good for others to let us all know :shrug:October 23, 2011 at 12:05 pm #511976
This is an ongoing problem, for some reason many ppl dont want to say where they live, no need to have the town, just the region, like southern tablelands or whatever. Should be mandatory on signup.
When answering questions re plants it is so location specific.
As for coffee Robyne, I wouldnt even try it anywhere in SA, I have sent dozens of plants to ppl down south, none survived.
Tea should be ok, passionfruit in cooler areas can be grafted onto cool climate stock, Nellie Kelly does ok in a sunny spot.
And if you can grow gourds, loofas should do ok.October 23, 2011 at 5:19 pm #511977
Where I live we can’t grow citrus as we have a lot of shale under the dirt, Its very hard digging yet down the road at Strath steams back yard he has a huge lemon tree so it must be inbetween lines of the stuff.
I have tired even the banana passionfruit fruit and it gets so big then keels over and dies. I have dug as much as I could and filled it with compost and manure but still no luck. Same with carrots they don’t grow here so I grow them in foam boxes don’t get huge ones but I manage to do get a few.
I have wondered if we could grow coffee in poly tunnels
It was just and idea as a lot of people ask about different plants so maybe others can help them with their weather and areas don’t need addresses just conditionsOctober 23, 2011 at 6:26 pm #511978
Robyn we are on the NSW Sth Coast. I am growing taro in shade with arrowroot in a damp spot and they are loving it. Bananas went in last year and are doing well. We saved them from the winter frosts (mild frost) by covering them in hessian. I have been trying for years to grow a tea plant and only now that it is covered by my rose geranium is it doing any well, go figure :shrug: . I don’t think it likes me :laugh: . I have just planted lufas for the first time 2 weeks ago and I’m still waiting for them to appear above ground. My next experiment is amaranth which I think I’ll plant well away from the vege garden from what I’ve been told.
Our growing conditions here are not the best. We have clay soil, temps from as low as 2 overnight in winter to over 40 in summer. I am still working out what does well here and can cope with the extremes, it is taking a lot of trial and error.
With the clay soil I have no hope of growing decent carrots. I did have some luck last year with the short fat round ones but there isn’t much of a meal in them. I have given up on growing passionfruit. It gets too cold here in winter and they keel over every time. Apples do very very well here and I bought some extras this year, shipped up from Tassie and they are doing very well. Some citrus varieties do ok, others are useless. Eureka lemon is the best by far here. My first lemonade went belly up, so I’ve put another in, in a different spot with the apples. Hamlin dwarf orange fruited the first year but a Valencia won’t even grow :shrug: Try apples if your citrus aren’t doing well but there are so many varieties of citrus out there one is bound to work. My blood orange is struggling along and yet a mandarine next to it in the same type of soil given the same care is jumping out of its skin :shrug: I’ve got to the point I’m putting all of the fruit trees in groves in raised beds. Those are doing well now but I still have about 4 beds to go :S Hope that all helps :wave:October 23, 2011 at 6:58 pm #511979
After living on the coast all my life, moving to Canberra was a shock because suddenly the idea of frost meant a minus 5 or even 7, not a quiet zero. Trying to grow anything in potters clay has its own challenges to.
My best investment was the “Australian Vegetable Garden” by Clive Blazey ( Diggers ). It goes into the specific temperature ranges for germination and growing condition required for edible plants. I totally had my eyes opened in a new way. I’m finding that creating both micro-climates and specific pH areas increases my success.October 23, 2011 at 9:56 pm #511980
Robyne, I remember seeing coffee plants at Perry’s a few years ago. They said they should grow fine in a pot in a warm sheltered spot, eg sunny protected corner of a verandah. I didn’t buy one so can’t comment on whether they do grow or not!
I agree it would be really helpful if people could put their general, or a quick note about their environment if they don’t want to actually say where they are.October 24, 2011 at 12:05 am #511981
Interesting topic. There are often ways to grow most things in cold climates. Where we used to live it was regularly down to minus 10 and the coldest was minus 18 and we successfully grew passionfruit, both black and banana but the trick was in a very protected area beside an earthen wall and slightly under an eave. Putting rocks around a plant often helps as well as it stores heat during the day and helps protect plants at night. We had some snow, not very settled but sometimes up to four inches. I grew my vegetables under hail netting, even citrus in the right spots.
A big key for extra frost protection is well balanced soil. If the soil is correctly balanced it can add 4 to 6 degrees in terms of frost damage. That is a subject in itself though.
I did not grow loofas though, so can’t help with that one.
You might need to build up your topsoil so that the shale has less effect. When I did my Cert IV in organic agriculture, we also had a test plot to try lots of different things practically and where the vegetable area was there was ironstone underneath. Basically that boiled down to limited biology but we were successful with all sorts of vegetables, even root vegetables, by building the soil into raised beds allowing a minimum of 6 inches of soil (preferably more) so that you could make amendments to that soil and get enough biology going.October 24, 2011 at 2:01 pm #511982
In some ways the zone info would help, but every garden is different. Even here in Temporate riverina everyone is able to grow diff things and a huge range in harvests. There’s good gardening guides on gardenate.com and abc gardening website based on zone. Other than that it’s trial and error. I would like a temporate zone thread tho :).
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