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November 20, 2009 at 8:38 am #431845GiannaMember
Yes, it’s nasty stuff GGang. :p
Are you all keeping powdered Vitamin C at home to dose your dogs with in case they become ill with tick bite? (or injectable).
I’ve been bitten by something very nasty this week (not a tick and hopefully not a white-tail) started with bite and itch and became a blister that burst with a huge area of swelling and redness. I took antihistamine but it did nothing. I applied Lavender and Tea Tree, took heaps of Vitamin C and then finally remembered something I’d read somewhere and put Vitamin C powder (calcium ascorbate) on a damp cotton face wipe and stuck it over the bite. It seemed to draw out a whole pile of gunk and I feel much better now and the redness is reduced to a 10c piece and the intolerable itching has stopped. I’ll keep taking the Vitamin C in large doses until I’m convinced it’s healed and I’ll also keep applying the Lavender and Tea Tree because between them, they kill just about every sort of bacteria.
Sprinkling Vitamin C powder on painful tick bites might help too.November 20, 2009 at 8:43 am #431846SonyaMember
We get them here on the Sunshine Coast – they don’t seem to affect the chooks – I thought they’d kill them pretty quickly, but I’ve never seen them affected by them.
As for the dog, he has a tick collar – not ideal, but another tick bite will kill him, so we decided to go with the collar. We also check him morning and night.
As for us, we get them all the time – I had one on my head just last night.
Don’t know what repels them, but the one yesterday my husband removed, immediately washed it over with an alcowipe and then betadine and that helped heaps.
Today I used Candelabra Aloe (Tree Aloe) sap on the site (which had the potential to become a nasty itchy localised allergy) and that helps heaps. Buy some aloe and use it.
We also have Ixodes 30C from Traditional Medicinals Apothecary and Clinic at Lismore – we’ve used that on the animals.
I’ve heard of people who take ticks off their dogs and feed them to them once they’ve been killed – perhaps someone with expertise in homeopathy can add something more useful.
Be careful though, some people can develop a nasty anaphalitic reaction to the bites – difficulty in breathing, changes in conscious levels etc… and it can develop with each bite, so keep an eye on them and the family’s reaction.
SonyaNovember 20, 2009 at 9:24 am #431847alexSMember
In another life when I had Afghan Hounds they were always fed high doses of garlic when taking them to a tick area. I would some times find dead ticks still attached when we got home. I react to tick and leech bites and unfortunately it has got to the stage where i have to carry cortison cream ( which I abhor) which I use as a last resort after tea tree oil, lavender oil, paw paw ointment and calendula ointment. We have spent a lot of time in the bush. DH goes black around tick bites without cortisone treatment.November 20, 2009 at 9:52 am #431848darlsMember
Hmm… I’ve got a container of malawash but never used it – was too afraid…
I’ve used Proban tablets which really helped alot for both my dogs. I suspect they build up some kind of immunity once they’ve nearly at the death’s door from tick attacks. :shrug:
We have leeches and ticks here – most regularly all year around (I think we got a break from ticks for only a couple of months in July and August.
We rely mostly on Proban (a tablet per dog every 2 or 3 days) and frontline when I remember to apply :noapprove: ) and ‘daily’ check on dogs. We are still waiting for the fences to be built to contain the dogs further away from the bush and dam.
I find that applying full strength lavender oil onto the leech wound really helps alot – no itchiness or scab for a week.
I keep a bottle of Vitamin C as well for emergencies. Dogs hate it but I know it works. Get some from Produce stores.
Cheers! :hug:November 27, 2009 at 8:49 am #431849hermitsMember
I have developed an allergy to meat since having major reactions to ticks.
The allergy specialist recommended using ‘autostart’ or ‘start ya *xxxx*’ sprayed onto the ticks while they are still in place as the ether kills them immediately.
My neighbour who has lived with ticks for 30 years recently had a major reaction that nearly killed her and was also told by the medical profession to use ‘autostart’.
I have to use phenergan and prednisone to stop the reactions as quickly as possible after finding a tick, or eating red meat inadvertanly as I did last week. Who would have thought a chicken sausage had meat?
We used to keep our cats flea free by washing them with wool wash after they visited the stud cats. We also used it on all the kittens and it worked brilliantly.November 27, 2009 at 9:33 am #431850fluffy chookMember
After living over thirty years near tick infested bush, the ticks were one of the reasons we had to move. We lost a doberman to a tick and all of our other dogs survived tick bites. Apparently some ticks are more toxic. Even though I used Proban, one dog still got bitten.I then used Frontline Plus.
After getting at least 27 embryonic ticks on one occasion (they are so small, they are like a speck of dust and are impossible to remove because the skin swells up around them) I developed a severe allegy to them. I would come out in hives if one even walked on me.
After 4 years away from the bush, if I get a tick now, it swells up like a hen egg and itches but I don’t get hives like I used to,
Ticks are killers – a bushcare worker died a few years ago here when one got into his ear.November 27, 2009 at 10:08 am #431851LeecyMember
We use Start-ya-*ba stard* too. Our dog had one tick when we first moved up here, $1000 (public holiday, no local vets, had to go to emergency centre down the coast) and 5 days later he was back home feeling very subdued.
Our neighbour gave us a can of this stuff and every tick he’s had since then has been sprayed and pulled out and he’s been fine. You should be able to find it in auto shops like SuperCheap or something similar. We have been combining this with daily checks for tick.
ETA spacing in the “swear” word so you know what to buy!November 27, 2009 at 9:22 pm #431852fluffy chookMember
What is Start-ya-? :shrug: Is it something to do with cars? I guess if you get it from Supercheap it must be:DNovember 27, 2009 at 10:09 pm #431853MetuMember
When I got a tick as a teenager (right on the end of my fringe line) the ambulance told my mum to dab it with metholated spirits before bringing me into the station. It was meant to make it easier to remove with a pair of tweezers and leave less of the head behind.
I can’t recall having any irritation afterwards.
The trick is to weaken the tick before removal, so they don’t leave any parts behind to cause irritation. Lavender oil always seems to work for me with ant bites.
I wonder if oil of clove would be better than metholated spirits though? I’ve used oil of clove in the past, to deaden gums which may be suffering from tooth ache. Get it on your tongue and you lose the feeling in your entire mouth – saliva runs down your chin without realising it, LOL. Yes, I know from experience. 😆November 27, 2009 at 11:04 pm #431854organicgirlMember
There are alternatives to chemical control of ticks.
Dusting sulphur is great, taken orally for animals. The work of Pat Coleby describes it well and it is part of her basic mineral mix which can be fed to any animal … probably humans too?
We found about 1tbs per day to each of our dexter cows (mixed with a small ration of chaff) was enough to keep ticks at bay. They simply don’t latch onto an animal with good sulphur levels. The only time we developed a problem was when we tried to switch to homepathic sulphur, which did not work.
This post has been good to remind me to put the sulphur back into our dog’s food too – from memory Pat talks about a dose of 2% of total food being sulphur. Hard to determine 2%, but for our little jack russel I work on just under about 1/4 tsp.
Dusting sulphur (sometimes called flowers of sulphur) is avail from most producee stores and can also be put in your socks if you’re walking through ticky country. By the same token it could probably be put in oil and rubbed on dogs while waiting for blood levels to rise sufficiently.
The suplhur theory is also proved where people water stock with bore water (which often has a high sulphur level) … again no ticks, where a neighbor who does not use bore water can have a huge problem.
Injectable vitamin C is a must for snake and tick bite, as is homeopathic ledum etc. Oral vitamin C works better though if the animal is conscious – vit c injections sting small animals.
Guinea Fowl are also supposed to be good for controlling ticks.
HeidiNovember 28, 2009 at 3:51 am #431855hermitsMember
Our neighbour who nearly died as a result of a tick bite recently has used the metho methos for tick removal for over 30 years with no problems until this last bite.
We’ve found the ‘autostart’ ( about $10) very good and also it is excellent for it’s original intention, starting chainsaws, mowers, whippersnippers etc. Just spray it in the carbie and the things start!
I wondered how the screening process would like my ‘swearing’!:lol:December 1, 2009 at 4:37 am #431856lorisMember
Hi all, yes add minced garlic and flower of sulphur to dog food. Actually I do this all the time for prevention of anything. Ticks don’t like the taste in the blood. If your pets have been bitten, they often develop a slight resistance to them. Keep more than one cat – they will often groom each other and remove ticks.
The reason that the creams work on ticks is that they are bum-breathers. When they bury their heads in the skin, they breath through glands on their body. To remove, especially from children, coat them liberally to excess with vasoline or other thick cream like dripping which blocks their breathing and they will pull their heads out for a breath. Then they are removed without any aggravation to the skin because they are just crawling on the surface breathing.
Putting metho on kills them and they tend to inject toxin as they die. Killing them is good but toxin is bad. I soften some vasoline and add some tea tree oil and use that to encourage them all to pull their heads out so I can squash them.December 28, 2009 at 12:27 pm #431857tipsypixieMember
Well, it’s been a while since I revisited this thread and I truly appreciate everyone’s advice. Loris, I didn’t know they were ‘bum-breathers’ but gee I love the term 😀
I’ve been feeding sulphur to all my animals for most of my life when living in tick prone areas and it it usually very good. This season however has been the worst in living memory according to the locals and really, vigilance has no peer. We’ve had 3 cats in the past 3 months (almost to the day) become victims to the bloody things. They’re all still alive and doing well now though. The latest was on Christmas night – totally housebound cat, so we’ve obviously bought this one in with us as well. Nothing quite like the panic and the $ signs running through your mind at 11pm on 25/12 when you find one the sods and you’re at least 30kms from the nearest vet, let me tell you!
Anyhow, the cats are all doing fine now. The local vets just love us and are rubbing their hands together as we’ve got 6 cats all up, so there’s a potential further substantial sum of money to come if this rain, then heat, then rain continues. On the upside, the vets’ tell us that they’re (the cats, not the vets) probably building an immunity if they survive the attack. Am I going to let them all out to test the theory? You’ve got to be joking!
Anyhow, thanks again for the advice everyone. I’ve made my own cosmetics, tinctures etc for years and years as well and have just about everything that’s been mentioned growing in the garden so it will be back to the stove top for me tomorrow to give some of these remedies a whirl. Never thought of using aloe which surprises me. It’s usually my first port of call so to speak for anything nasty and I have substantial quanties of it in the garden so will give that a go as well. I’ve been rubbing it all over my shoulders and arms to treat a strange reaction I’ve been having to sunblock when I sweat and it’s working a treat. Can’t think for the life of me why I didn’t think of using it for tick bites.
The vitamin C I’ve never heard of before but need to go into town tomorrow for stock feed so will look for it at the local produce store. Can’t help to keep some in the first aid kit. Oh, of course I’ve heard of vitamin C, just not as an antidote.
When it comes to your animals I really can’t stress enough that you can’t beat daily checking and then checking again. Basil, the Christmas victim, had been checked the night before thoroughly. Christmas afternoon he wasn’t quite himself, so I went over him again. I went over him 4 times more before I found the tick and the daughter had gone over him once as well. He is a long haired thing which doesn’t help.
Anhow, enough of my waffling, I’ll probably dream about the disgusting parasites now :@
C.December 28, 2009 at 4:26 pm #431858daviesgangMember
Finally my animals and house are all flea free :metal: and I didn’t have to use the malawash:tup:. I ended up buying a tea tree shampoo from Rivers believe it or not and I washed them all with it once a day for a week and while they were lathered up I went over them with a nit comb and rinsed all the fleas into an ice cream container of hot water which killed them. It took two weeks of that and I then put a flea collar on each of them and took them off the week before christmas. I found the shampoo was very gentle and I checked to make sure I wasn’t going to make the animals sick with the amount of tea tree oil in it. The dogs skin is still recovering from his reaction to the flea bites but he is no longer scratching frantically. I have checked the animals daily since the collars came off but I haven’t found any flea dirt or fleas since so I think I have got the little buggers. Oops almost forgot to add that i put about 10 drops of tea tree oil in the vacuum cleaner bag as well as a flea collar and I vacuumed everyday while I was ridding the animals of their jumpy friends.January 2, 2010 at 5:09 am #431859organicgirlMember
Hi Tipsypixie (love the name!)
vit c (injectable) needs to be stored in the fridge — we keep it there in a little bag with the syringe and written instructions because the brain often goes blank just when you need to remember how to do it — and it is not something done often.
With regard to fleas, we wash the dog in castille soap (liquid) mixed with a few drops of tea tree and eucalyptus – done every few days for a week it quickly breaks the cycle. Dimatacious Earth – not sureo f the spelling – also works well rubbed into their coat — it kills the hatchlings because their ‘shell’ is still soft.
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