August 29, 2012 at 8:40 pm #257254
That super trawler is here………BUGGER OFF HOME!!!!! :angry: :angry: :angry:
Please consider signing the petition.It beats me how such stupid , stupid things can be permitted by our Government.August 29, 2012 at 8:55 pm #527397
because they don’t care
if they are allowing CSG, this is a mere nothing to themAugust 29, 2012 at 9:21 pm #527398porgeyMember
BlueWren post=348199 wrote: That super trawler is here………BUGGER OFF HOME!!!!! :angry: :angry: :angry:
I just cant understand how the government can possibly allow this to happen let alone the environmental disassociation behind such a monumental pillage of the seas.
Tony Burke must step in to stop this. Of course we will have to pay them compensation and will probably be sued for breaking our parlous trade laws, but we will maintain at least some of our fish stocks.
So BUGGER OFF and whilst your at it do your best to hit a barren rock and sink.August 31, 2012 at 6:53 pm #527399RobyneMember
When is the government going to stop this crap that is going on here lately. its just not the ones in power
but all parties.
Heard on the news Cobby Farm now belongs to the Chinese.August 31, 2012 at 7:07 pm #527400AnonymousGuest
we are being sold out all over the place, china if not is about to own cuddy, more water than sydney harbour will come under their control, same in the kimberlies. selling our food land, sold out over this cli8mate hype, now more than ever our fish stocks are going to be raped, and the greens want to stop mum and dad and kids fishing on the east coast.
fish if not so is rapidly dissapearing on the aussie dinner plates, unless it is that polluted catfish basa from asian polluted waters.
sad time now for all the world but particularly australia.
garbage leadership we have these days. the rot is now putrid
lenAugust 31, 2012 at 7:25 pm #527401
I have been saying for at least 2 decades, for some reason, they (all parties) want primrary production stopped in this country
we are being/have been taken over slowly and surely by stealthAugust 31, 2012 at 9:38 pm #527402SnagsMember
Sounds like it was an approval by a “independent” body with too much influence from the short term profit fishing crowd.
Hopefully laws change and its stopped.
CONTROVERSIAL super-trawler the MV Margiris may have to surf another hurdle before it can begin fishing after government backbencher Melissa Parke said she would introduce a bill to ban it.
The Commonwealth Ombudsman is investigating the Australian Fisheries Management Authority’s approval process with a member of Seafish Tasmania also a member of the approval committee.
Environment Minister Tony Burke has sought advice on whether he has the power to prevent or restrict the ship under environmental laws.
Im a big fan of extended fishing no go zones, short term greed has destroyed the worlds fish supplies for the profits of a very greedy few who have big wallets and big influence.September 1, 2012 at 2:48 am #527403
I think it said on the news this evening that it was a Tassie company that invited the trawler here.September 1, 2012 at 10:39 am #527404AnonymousGuest
one of the idiot box channels is going to feature a white wash segment on their current affairs program, they advertised it last night. good old tree hugging tassie hey if it was them, can’t save old growth forest so no decimate our water of fish stock. that’s balance.
it is going to rape trawl from qld around to western australia, reckon aussies better get sued to not being able to afford fish.
keep in mind in all beam trawling operations it is not what the catch as much as the juveniles of all species in the way of the trawl that get killed. beam trawling is the biggest waster of fish.
we should have gotten more sustainable when 16′ boats only trawled rivers instead greed set in now they trawl at every place no where for fish to hide or breed.
all fishing should have been kept at local levels, no exporting even interstate or intrastate. some fishing not even needed take spanner crabs, those operations now entangling with whales.
we really needed to get serious in the good times and have dedicated fishing families using low impact trap methods, local fishermen like we should still have local farmers. the staples like mullet are around $12 per kilo whole un-gutted or scaled, and tailor is off the range it is at least 50% more these are basic staples, can’t afford them as many times that i have stood at a counter looking at rediculous prices a have never seen anyone buying mud crabs or those pitiful little crayfish they are rich man’s food.
like i will say again we need to unite under common ethics and take our food chains out of the hands of gov’ and greedy operators those lustfull middle men.
lenSeptember 1, 2012 at 12:53 pm #527405SnagsMember
Introduction of MacDonalds meant the death of FishNChips
The end of small scale local supply which then chased overseas markets.
The end of fresh local cheap fish for the domestic market consumed by rich and poor.
We turned from traditional regular fish eaters into regular fatty red meat eaters within a very short period of time.
FTA with the US didnt help either has no restrictions on our Fish which is what they need but not what our fish stocks need.
The only thing that will save our fish stocks is green zones and inevitable high oil prices that make commercial fishing uneconomical.
and we better start farming/fishing them sustainably and a bloody big factory ship is not the way to do it.September 1, 2012 at 1:32 pm #527406AnonymousGuest
that’s the one snags,
in 50’s we could us kids at least 4 go to F&C shop and buy 6pence worth of fish and chips wrapped in newspaper with a white paper liner sometimes, got huge slab of mullet, and thick and more chips than if you bought ‘taters and made your own, can’t quiet recall but a pie one flavour only cost a penny or thrupence, and that was all meat full. we could go to grocer shop and buy get this one penney’s worth of mixed lollies, and local kids got added in some of the broken ones set aside not to be sold. we can still get regular type snapper; cod whatever and chips up here but not that cheap, 4 pieces of cod and chips for 4 around $20.
and when stoogey gov’ bring in that basics card those small businesses coffee shops and all will fold.
so yes the local fish market in the middle of brissy disappeared, first port of call for shoppers leaving the city on the tram, and none of teh fish is waht could be termed fresh, freshest i ever had up here was mary river mullet mud and all from iga in mary-b. $6 per kilo great little feed.
anyhow we are lost in food security we won’t be able to afford to buy bananas from the kimberlies or cherries from tassie, with that co2 tax and no one wants to talk food security in these sustainable forums. good side maybe those southern new south welshman won’t be affording our mud crabs either the crabber will supply asia, who will value add and send it back in tins.
can we stop this boat with our fragmented society no way jose. and fish are harder to hug, and that far out to sea the raper trawler will be out of sight out of mind.
take care folks we are on a downhill slide pushed by sciences and no common sense.
lenSeptember 1, 2012 at 3:15 pm #527407
So true len. But an important correction if I may.You commented that “no one wants to talk food security in these sustainable forums.” I have often posted about food security on here – this thread is one example – and added links etc to local and national endeavours , and most recently perhaps to the government’s dodgy take on national food security.
Localisation and the death of “growth” will be key.It is happening.It needs all of us to be involved in whatever is happening at our own local level,not just securing our own little patch.September 1, 2012 at 4:44 pm #527408AnonymousGuest
yes blue wren,
me of course may miss some threads maybe better subject lines?
if we allow this development of housing and industrial to continue slashing and burning sorry chipping residual tree habitat, and include in that farms and native habitat bush going to plantation timbers mostly useless pine. then where are we going to be able to go by shnakes pony or bicycle to pick up some staples from a local farm, eggs, milk and F&V like we had in the 50’s and 60’s etc.,.
there is a ridiculous political group wanting to stop fishing on the east coast, almost guaranteed not to deliver like that co2 thing as well.
our farmers have been pushed further and further away, we are likely to suffer expensive food and poor diet, and teh farmers will go broke as they are to far away to get their produce to us.
that is the food security if that is the right word even that we need. or all our food could come from polluted irrigation lots in asian countries, already for a decade or so now fresh garlic off our menu it is chinese or mexican or californian.
anyone for fish and chips in the big shop centres? should say basa and french fries i’m an aussie, lst time i had fresh fish was when i caught it myself. be lost without fish oil tab’s. now they are attacking krill for human consumption.
it could be way to late but how do we force the gov’ to give us local farmers, and local fisherman using other than beam trawling.
lenSeptember 1, 2012 at 10:36 pm #527409September 2, 2012 at 3:35 pm #527410benoMember
In my opinion the public has not only been spoon fed but swallowed the spoon as well. Australia has great fisheries and well managed at that. Some quotas for QLD fisheries were being under caught by up to 70% for some species. Some Fishermen only seemed to want to chase the high end stuff like coral trout and didn’t bother much with red emperor and similar species which are good on the table but don’t get the high returen per kilo. So the result is less fish at the market for retailers to purchase and then they the retailers, choose the basa because its available. Then the high priced stuff is fished hard to get the most out of the available quotas and this could lead to stressing the target fish population. By ensuring diversification in catches we could increase our fish catch by huge margins and have less impact on the high end stuff.
Australia has (had) some of the best sustainable fisheries in the world but extreme elements have demonised the legitimate take of fish from our waters, without any evidence, and this has helped overseas markets get a foot hold here. The government followed all this crazy extreme sentiment and started buying fishing licenses and restricting fishing areas to keep it all “sustainable” Now they are letting factory ships come in to profit from our stupidity.
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