December 31, 2008 at 1:54 pm #384143TeacupMember
Wow…. 🙂December 31, 2008 at 2:23 pm #384144
Is that a good ‘wow’? or a ‘my god have you lost your mind’ wow? I tend to fluctuate between the two on an hourly basis. But having just successfully re-siliconed the bath here with, even if I say so myself, a nice professional finish, I am currently in ‘good wow’ mode 😀December 31, 2008 at 6:55 pm #384145SpriteMember
$75,000 for a skillion section is just ridiculous. I’d be a bit sceptical of your draftsman – he’s not a professional builder so how he came up with this quote is a little bewildering.
Having just relocated our own weatherboard home, knocked up some walls, installed a composting toilet etc, I can honestly say it is really not that hard (the tiling in the bathroom I did simply by consulting a book with some basic pictures in it). It has cost us probably $1000 in materials whereas if we had employed a builder it would have been eight times that much.
I guess what I”m trying to say (badly) is break the project down into small bits, look at what you feel comfy in attempting, and then shop around for quotes on essential plumbing or electrical work (eg: gas fitting a stove or HWS). Don’t do any contractor works until you are actually there if it can be avoided as contractors have an amazing habit of “disappearing” at odd hours if you are not on site, or half finishing things if you are not there to check.
Also, if any contractor wants you to sign a contract with them, go through it with a fine tooth comb. We had a recent incident with a less than honest solar electrician, who quoted to install a series of battery banks to our panel array. It wasn’t until 3 months later when he was finishing the job that we discovered his quote was for 1 bank only. The way he got around quoting on all of them was to insert the number of amp hours generated by 1 bank in the back of the specification, rather than times it by the number of banks (4). Very sneaky and deceitful, especially as he spent the whole 3 months talking about connecting up all of the banks.
If a contractor wants you to sign a contract, agree, but make him/her sign one with you as well. This I have never understood – why people agree to sign contracts that offer protection and benefits to the contractor yet nothing for themselves.
Good luck with your project. Whereabouts in Australia is it?December 31, 2008 at 7:11 pm #384146
Wise words Sprite. It is in Tassie, in the midlands. Sorry to hear about your contractor – what a horror. The only work I am getting done before I get there is the basic wiring refit (running to existing outlets) simply because no electricity would be a step too far in primitive living I feel. And Aurora won’t reconnect unless they are happy with the wiring.
My hysterical shrieks have resulted in some surprisingly radical reductions in costs. Eg the $12000 for the carpentry work has miraculously gone down to $2800. Hmmm. Also another forum member who is self-building in Tas at present and whose supplier of materials is probably also going to be mine, has sent me some more encouraging costings – and for better quality materials – hardwood instead of softwood.
I suspect the main problem with the draftsman is that he is a) oldfashioned (he is strongly resisting the idea a woman can be an owner-builder – grrr, but I’ll get over it) and b) has the old ‘must be ‘nice shiney new approach using ‘safe’ (ie predictable) materials. He is less than happy that I want to clad it in corrugated iron, for example. Still we are having an armslength wrestle (with me basically pointing out that I want his drafting skills, not his opinions – he is after all basically just drawing up what I had already designed), and that I welcome any ‘information’ as opposed to opinions and will not be making firm decisions re who does what on site until I am there to see for myself.
Clearly I am not silly enough to try to do electrical or plumbing, and have serious reservations about trying to form up for the slab, but for goodness sake, framing up is not rocket science and I have more than enough building experience to take that on so long as I have good working drawings (his job), and someone to help lift wall frames when they are ready to raise.
Can you tell he has been annoying me, have needed a good rant!!
I am also looking forward to Tassie Tiger’s views because he has a background in building, apparently, and I suspect a more creative eye about the potential for the house. May not be so ready to dismiss the reusability of what is there…. (in the main house, not the lean-to, that clearly is past its use-by date, but probably has some usable materials).
so am currently working on trying to get the place here in marketable condition over the break (bit of an uphill battle at present) and getting quotes for transport moving etc and also trying to buy a vehicle long-distance (I have a mechanic friend there who is doing the legwork on this one for me). So home soon, but not right now, sadly …December 31, 2008 at 11:08 pm #384147AnonymousInactive
would it be worth getting yourself a little caravan to pop on the site once you get there, and then tackle everything once you have your legs on the ground and you can see and watch everything that is going on.
Once there, I would put on a BBQ and some drinks and call a working bee… I’m sure some Tassie ALS members would be more than happy to come over and help asses, tidy, suggest and create..
Maybe its just me but I hate making plans for some thing with out first touching it, feeling which way the wind blows, see where the sun hits the ground, it is very easy to get carried away with the moment.December 31, 2008 at 11:40 pm #384148
Baldcat, that is one of several options. I am somewhat heartened that Jodie and Geir coped in their container for several months, and my place at least offers one room that is fairly weathertight and has heating. The present plan is to camp in that room and probably rent a portaloo (which may be cheaper than a caravan, hopefully). Hot water, I thought I could make do with a tea urn so there is some on tap, so to speak, rather than having to boil vats. It should only be for about 6 months maximum as once planning is approved I can start site preparation.
I am hoping to organise a working bee as well, and may yet find a barbecue is a better option than the oven that comes with the place. As you say, it is hard to make firm plans from the other side of the world. Just getting there will be a bit of a saga. I will be landing at a friends place for the first couple of nights to sort out the bank and collect the car and so forth. Then I planned to have a day at the house en route to my sister in Launceston for a couple of days. That will let me mow a fire break around the place and also to take some measurements for more urgent needs like glass for one of the windows. While in Launceston I can have that cut so I can take it back down and insert it in said window. Might also pick up the framing for the front door which needs to be replaced while I am about it.
So many things to do between now and then.
But getting the planning permission has to be a priority as without that I can do nothing other than potter around (and there is plenty to potter with too …)December 31, 2008 at 11:47 pm #384149jodieandgeirMember
I am somewhat heartened that Jodie and Geir coped in their container for several months
Just a small correction – we were only in the container for 6 weeks, it might have seemed like months though…….. 😆 It actually wasn’t too bad. Gave us a dry place to be, but a bit extreme when it came to temperatures, it being dark red. Really hot during the day, but we still needed really thick dunas for night time !
We did, however, live without a bathroom for about 4 months and just boiled water for outside bucket washes, but then we did have our home made composting toilet for the more important facilities !
GeirDecember 31, 2008 at 11:55 pm #384150
Close but no cigar then, sorry Geir … a portaloo might do the trick for me and possibly be more acceptable to my tradeys when they visit … though there seems to be an option to insert a composting loo into the dunny shed if I get creative …:DJanuary 1, 2009 at 12:08 am #384151Tassie TigerMember
Happy New Year hillbillygirl:wave:
just catching up on your postings re the project. I will be back in Tassie next Monday 5 January. My sister is coming back with me for a week so if you would like we can go up and have a look at the property as a day out trip for her.
Baldcats idea of a working bee sounds like a good one and I would be happy to offer advice (not opinions:lol: ) also more than happy to provide an extra pair of hands.
Keep in touch and let me know what you would like to do:tup:January 1, 2009 at 12:14 am #384152
Thanks TT, would really like to hear your views on the place. The draftsman sounds quite depressing but like I said in an earlier post, I think he and I have different world views.
It would be a nice day out for your sister, they do good pumpkin soup at the woolshop place (begins with C, can’t remember the name).
There are some water heating appliances sitting on the back veranda at present. If they look usable, it would be good to get them inside and dry …
I take possession on the 6th, so after that it is all stations go, as far as is possible from here …
Maybe we can have a barn-raising when I get there :lol::lol::lol:January 1, 2009 at 12:18 am #384153Tassie TigerMember
No probs HG pm me with the location details and we will see when we can get there:tup:January 1, 2009 at 8:50 am #384154
Thanks TT, I have PM’d you. Will really look forward to your insights (well, I hope so, may not want to know …)January 1, 2009 at 9:38 am #384155TullymoorMember
Now, that’s networking! :clap: Good on TT :hug:January 1, 2009 at 9:41 am #384156
Indeed it is. TT and JodieandGeir have both been fantastic suppot. Good thing about Tassie is we are all related … :lol::lol:
in one way or another …January 3, 2009 at 10:12 am #384157TeacupMember
Yey! Lovely to hear about what is happening – ALS support and all. Smilie is clapping…
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