March 18, 2008 at 11:42 pm #242530
Also there were more extended family in kids life of all ages… Just through osmosis some kids probably “got” it at an earlier age just watching older siblings. Another advantage was there were usually a lot more siblings to watch… I bet Mum wasn’t the primary toilet trainer after the first couple of kids!!
I bet these same oldies now have an automatic washeing machine and drier they wouldn’t give up and go back to the old ways of washing and ironing…. Kids or no kids!!!
My DS2 took off his nappy at 18ms and wouldn’t go back into full time nappy wearing from then on….. DS3 wasn’t called Nick the nudist for nothing (usually only wearing a Dorothy the dinosaur tail… roll on his 21st!! 😉 ) , he still pees on the grass while at home and I can’t remember no 2s so it mustn’t of been too traumatic…. The others took longer though…
I used cloth on my big boys (19 & 20) and Huggies on my littlies (9 & 7)… I think again it is more that big business has marketed to a niche and the “3 year old in nappies” has spawned from this….. :tdown::tdown:March 19, 2008 at 12:40 am #331546
I really do think it depends on the child. My DS (17months) was running around rudie nudie to “air out” on a warm day. He came up to me and wanted me to go with him. We went into his room and I noticed a wet patch on the carpet. All I said was “oh, you’ve peed on the carpet” – just in a mildly surprised tone.
He ran behind his cot screaming and crying and started to get really anxious.
So I calmed him down, put a nappy and clothes back on and he was settled straight away. It really stressed him out for some reason.
He started to take his nappy off at one point and I thought “aha! potty time!” Then the opposite, he’d take it off and get all anxious and want it back on..
So when I go to the loo he goes and sits on the little turtle potty. We’ll just get more familiar with it and I’ll start him on training pants during the day at home soon.
As soon as his little playmate starts potty training we’ll stick them in the bathroom on potty time together and hopefully they’ll “click”. They learn so fast when they’re together and get up to such mischief.
I must say I was absolutely appalled at a relo of mine that couldn’t be bothered with TT and had to do it when the kid was starting pre-school.
EC I’m not all that convinced with either. I think there’s a happy medium and I’m going with whatever I observe and feel is right for DS.
I’m a stay at home mum which is hard decision but the amount of loving and beautiful moments we have, I wouldn’t do it any differently -though we can’t really afford it. I’ll stay home with all the kids to come.March 19, 2008 at 2:13 am #331547
They are all individuals, aren’t they Suzi? My friends daughter was toilet trained for pee, but when she wanted to poo, she would get her mother to put on a nappy then she would go behind something, like a couch, then ask her mother to take off the nappy. Apparently she got splashed by the toilet water once and that was it.:lol: She’s over it now.March 19, 2008 at 3:23 am #331548
Jodie, I reckon previous generations used what we now call EC too – my mum always used a cue sound to get us to pee when we were little. When my first child was a baby we visited my great aunt and she described toilet training her children; it sounded very like EC.
Kids can be so different though. Both mine were in cloth and the first daytrained (with lots of encouragement) at 3; the second decided that he was not wearing nappies at a bit over 2. But night training was the reverse, with my oldest boy deciding he didn’t want night nappies anymore at 4 and me having to persuade my 2nd child to give them up at 4 1/2.March 19, 2008 at 3:30 am #331549
I have been told you can’t make them go,they will let you know when they are ready.
Iam still waiting for my son Angus who is 2 to let me know.
Any given chance of running nude,which is once a day,he is out the door and squatting like my little dog,it is driving me crazy. He just won’t use his potty.:confused:March 19, 2008 at 8:16 am #331550
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my son has specail eeds so dosent understand his body yet. 😉March 19, 2008 at 9:58 am #331551
i think toilet training is like anything else – it’s all about the child. my 7yo has just started reading. i reckon my 3yo will be doing it within a year. my 18mo has only just discovered that he has a penis, but has no idea what it’s for.
i find it fairly tedious being told when my children should talk, have teeth, read, use a toilet.
and as for older people who did things differently, can they really remember when their kids got out of nappies? also, i think parents are more inclined to let their children develop at their own speed, rather than harrass them into reaching milestones they aren’t ready for.
i don’t think disposables have anything to do with it. they’re expensive and it’s still a parcel of shit. who wouldn’t want to have their child do it straight into the toilet?
btw, if you do use disposables, you’ll be doing the planet a small favour by flushing the poo 🙂March 19, 2008 at 10:03 am #331552
mmm i think my post might suggest that reading is somehow connected to penis awareness. rest assured, it’s not so, folks. no penis required 😆March 19, 2008 at 11:42 am #331553
Well thank heaven for that, redhen! I was going to go and scare one up!
Seriously, though, medical opinion is that children get it when they are ready, and thats an individual development thing. There is no correlation between toilet training and future success so I’m not really sure what the big deal is. I suspect much of the early success is toilet timing, not toilet training, which is fine, but they are different. Enough measuring the poor little buggers!
Night wetting is completely different. It is unlikely that a paediatrician will want to investigate night wetting until the child is at least 7 years old or becoming very distressed by bedwetting.
Other thrilling facts (I used to work in a paediatric renal unit): boys toilet train later than girls on average; if your child is in a deep squat and you know they need to go to the loo, don’t pull them out of the squat to race them off: they will wee. Let them come out of the squat on their own (when the urge has passed) then take them to the loo. Day time wetting is not caused by laziness or a wish not to miss out on the action. It very often has a physical cause and a continance expert can help with this. Contact the outpatients department of any children’s hospital for contact details of such a service. Many run clinics and bulk bill.
DMarch 19, 2008 at 12:24 pm #331554
Other cultures have a different approach to it. I once spent some time in a village in a developing country where there were no toilets in the houses. Wees were done in the bush and the other in long-drops that were filled in every week or so. I never saw a nappy anywhere â€“ the little kids just ran around bare-bottomed. Toilet training seemed to be a case of leading by example. If a father went to do a wee, he always took a small toddler with him. It was really funny to see dad holding his willie, doing his business and a little fellow standing beside him desperately trying to imitate his father. There was a girl from the US Peace Corps there as well and she told me it was the same with the women. The method seemed to work because the kids appeared self-sufficient in the toilet department by the time they were about two. Not sure if this method would be appropriate for Australia though!March 19, 2008 at 9:40 pm #331555
Fascinating thread. I think they way you’ve described it would be the best Warwick! (for the kids sake anyway.) I think these days toileting has become a forbidden topic, so kids really don’t understand it. It also often becomes a power struggle instead of a fact of life, which I’m sure contributes.
In our case, I think we put too much pressure on her, and then had several moves which shook up her world, so all in all it’s not surprising! I have no concerns about it, always knew she would get it when she was ready emotionally (as physically she was ready much earlier).March 19, 2008 at 10:26 pm #331556
mmm i think my post might suggest that reading is somehow connected to penis awareness. rest assured, it’s not so, folks. no penis required 😆
Thanks for that, it made me laugh out loud.
S is REALLY vocal when he goes for a poo :shy: (and he’s rarely constipated) I really hope he grows out of that before kindy! As he’ll be 18 mos old when the new baby comes I don’t think I’ll be even bothering to start introducing the idea until he’s nearly two anyway… unless he instigates it himself. I let him have a bit of naked time most days and on the odd occasion when he wees on the floor, he’s so surprised by it, I have to stop myself from laughing at his expression!March 20, 2008 at 3:11 am #331557
my 7yo son likes to wee over the side of the verandah. his sister, who has only recently stopped wearing day nappies liked to copy him. she would stand next to him, grab a roll of tummy fat and do a slow swaying motion (as blokes do when they seem to be writing their name :lol:). it was hilarious.
maybe that is why it took so long. she was training to wee with a penis. :noapprove:
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