September 25, 2013 at 7:13 pm #533819
There you see, I thought it was money well spent to make it clear to Mr Abbott that his head-in-the sand approach to climate change was fine as a personal opinion, but irrelevant once elected to provide a safe and economic future for Australians … pretty clear message for a little more than the price of a gift card and postage…September 25, 2013 at 8:31 pm #533820
People dont like to hear the inconvenient truthSeptember 25, 2013 at 11:47 pm #533821ballamaraKeymaster
If I had chest pains I wouldn’t go to a motor mechanic, like wise I wouldn’t go to a geologist to find out about climate change. I prefer to go to a specialists myself as well as doing my own research so that I can come to a informed decision.September 26, 2013 at 1:59 am #533822
You would be happy to self diagnose a potential terminal illness for your children or grand children over the opinions of the majority of experts?September 26, 2013 at 12:20 pm #533823ballamaraKeymaster
Tim Flannery is not a major expert or even a minor one when it comes to climate change he is a geologist nothing more, and it is debatable whether he is in the majority of scientific thinking on the subjectSeptember 26, 2013 at 1:09 pm #533824
Geology is actually very relevant to the study of climate change, as is archaeology, palaeoanthropology, statistics and other fields represented by Tim’s team. Regardless of that, he is the team leader, not necessarily the one who does the research, so his particular field is not at issue in this context.September 26, 2013 at 1:12 pm #533825
and just to set the record straight, he is (and I quote) a ‘mammologist, paleontologist and global warming activist’. If all of your research is this reliable, perhaps you need to start seeking advice from elsewhere…September 26, 2013 at 4:39 pm #533826threedogsMember
ballamara post=358388 wrote: Tim Flannery is not a major expert or even a minor one when it comes to climate change he is a geologist nothing more, and it is debatable whether he is in the majority of scientific thinking on the subjectSeptember 26, 2013 at 4:41 pm #533827
This is fresh from the new guys;
Debunking the persistent myth that global warming stopped in 1998
Join in its a live blogSeptember 26, 2013 at 8:12 pm #533828
Good article – thanks Snags. $800,000 and still rising – amazing response from the community!!September 27, 2013 at 1:01 am #533829
Hot of the press
IPCC report finds temperatures on track to rise by more than two degrees
Average surface temperatures up 0.85 degrees since 1880
Extremely likely – 95 per cent certainty – humans the dominant cause global of warming
Sea levels to rise 26-81 centimetres by 2100
World temperatures to rise 2–4.8 degrees – warming by 2100
It is more certain than ever that human civilisation is the main cause of global warming, putting the world on track for dangerous temperature rises, the latest major UN assessment of climate change science has found.
and we have Tony Abbott as our leader with vision (lol) and his main priority is building the roads of the 21 century as the end of cheap oil approaches
what a great use of tax payers moneySeptember 30, 2013 at 12:34 pm #533830BullseyeMember
If not Abbott, the military is planning for climate change and war.
Some paragraphs and sentences pasted here from the story, Plan for weather or plan for war.
“The science of climate change will never be settled for some of these bastards. The salt water will be lapping at their front porch, the storm surge sweeping up the goddamned street and they’ll still be whining about some fragment of data that shows some glacier somewhere didn’t melt away into ice cubes for my martini shaker nearly as quick as those corrupt science boffins said it would.”
“Military planners the world over have begun to fund research into the conflicts they know are coming. Some of that research involves making armed forces greener, simply because reliance on fossil fuels is a point of critical failure, and failure in war means death and defeat.”
“The US military, the Australian military, the Brits, the Chinese, all of them with any sense of the long game, they’ve all started to plan not just for climate change but for climate conflict. When nations cannot feed themselves, when they cannot guarantee the security of their populations they do not act rationally. They lash out, or rather those in power lash out, often seeking scapegoats or plunder to draw attention away from their own failure.”September 30, 2013 at 12:45 pm #533831
That’s a cheery thought, and if he keeps on with his present course of action with Indonesia he will be giving them the perfect excuse.November 22, 2013 at 9:35 pm #533832
So basically you dont trust the 97% of scientists who unanimously agree on man made GW you trust the 3 % who arent peer reviewed and are mostly funded by the fossil fuel industry or right wing political groups or both
Whos agenda is to continue their BAU exponential growth on a finite planet fantasy and claim GW is a communist plot.November 22, 2013 at 10:57 pm #533833threedogsMember
It amazes me when I read statements slagging off the scientists who contributed to the incredible body of work that is the latest IPCC report. I was privileged to be taught for a semester by one of them, a person who also happens to be part of the crowd funded Climate Council; Professor Lesley Hughes. Professor Hughes was and is no ‘paid for’ climate scientist with riches and fame. When she was teaching third year Ecology units for undergraduates like me doing a science degree (only four year ago)she was also contributing to earlier IPCC reports although she was ‘only’ an Associate Professor then. Her whole career over a couple of decades has been studying how changes in climate affect particular species of plants and animals. She came on our residential camp on the bus, just an ordinary uni lecturer roughing it in the bush for several days with us students. I recall an exceptional teacher and scientist and a warm, down to earth woman who liked a glass of good red around a camp fire. I would suggest that the vast majority of scientists who contributed to the IPCC report and who live and breathe the science of climate change every day are just ordinary people doing extremely important work. And for most of them, until (if) you become a Professor your pay to spend six months teaching and six months researching in most universities as an ordinary climate science lecturer is less than my partner’s wage as a maintenance fitter. Yeah it’s heady stuff all right leading the whole world astray in combined global alliance of mad boffins drunk on wealth and power. FFS get a grip, apply some logic and reasoning and a degree of decency and respect towards a group of people who are trying there damnedest to give humanity a fighting chance.
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