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  • #257760
    Anonymous
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    ford is heading to shut down dunno if they get a gov’ hand out earlier like the general did but the general still sacked people and is in close down as well, no value for the subsidy money taken from health etc.,.

    so out and out those groups that support CO2 and what it doesn’t do are going to get their desire no jobs on shore all off shore all things imported including food, then we will be held to ransome, whilst the countries we get food from use our land for free, and bring in their own slaves.

    our seclar(nothing to do with religion as such) australia is heading toward doom, while oterhs have no emathy for the poor ranks they are going to join. all we’ll ahve for aussie economy is some mining.

    all this right when teh gov’ is making it impossible for the jobless families

    take care, let’s unite

    len

    #532500
    Airgead
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    And the high Australian dollar and the cost of labour due to the mining boom has nothing to do with it? Its all the carbon tax’s fault.

    Bollocks again.

    Edit: and the fact that they make crappy, fuel guzzling cars that people don’t want to buy any more.

    #532501
    Anonymous
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    teh dollar was only driven high by the bloodlust investors now it is in their interest to drive it low, be more than interesting times ahead as jobs are less and less.

    hey need to be realistic teh masses can little afford any new car, especially those expensive small models that make outlandish claims.

    anyhow

    len

    #532502
    Bullseye
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    I wish some inventive, enterprising individuals could utilised all that hot air and huffing and puffing for sustainable energy generation… :whistle:

    #532503
    Airgead
    Member

    The dollar was driven high by a combination of mining boom and economic conditions overseas.

    It is in all our interests to drive it lower to make our manufacturing and farming more competitive. It will lower the price of locally produced goods relative to overseas and make things like importing basic food from chine less viable.

    In general, smaller cars are cheaper than larger ones (unless you go luxury but then again a luxury large car is more expensive than a luxury small car). And while some of the fuel efficiency claims are on the unbelievable side, they do use less fuel than a honkin great big V8 which ford/holden insist on producing.

    Globally, people are switching to smaller cars. Ford/Holden are not producing smaller cars locally. They produce large cars locally. Therefore their market is shrinking to the point where it is no longer viable to produce them.

    Cheers

    Dave

    #532504
    Bullseye
    Member

    Carbon Tax is working, with a 10 year low in Australian CO2 emissions, entirely due to the tax.

    To make that even better, the more Australians using renewable sustainable energy sources for electricity the better.

    Aust CO2 emissions hit 10-year low

    Australia’s greenhouse gas emissions from electricity generation have fallen to a 10-year low as coal-fired power slumped to its lowest level in a decade, a new report says.

    At the same time, the share of renewable energy in the National Electricity Market (NEM) has soared beyond 12 per cent and looks set to continue rising.

    In its latest quarterly emissions outlook, energy and carbon research firm RepuTex found coal power made up 74.8 per cent of the NEM in the three months ended in March – its lowest point in 10 years.

    Coal was at more than 85 per cent of the NEM four years ago, when wind made up just half a per cent of the overall mix.

    Today, wind generation is at 3.8 per cent, hydro 8.7 per cent and gas at 12.7 per cent of the NEM.

    Renewables are basically cancelling out coal,” RepuTex executive director Hugh Grossman told AAP on Thursday.

    As a result, Australia’s CO2 emissions were driven down to a ten-year low, he said.

    More… http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/aust-co2-emissions-hit-10year-low-20130411-2hnnq.html

    #532505
    Anonymous
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    and of course a falling dollar will drive our fuel higher and still won’t have a positive effect on people being forced to buy expsnsive hybrids that simply don’t do the job a family needs.

    anyhow us and very many oterhs just have to go along for the ride.

    maybe ford and gm should ahve been nationalised like back in the 1930’s german days and be made to work together to produce an affordable family car, teh VW was far more adaptable and suitable to families that was ever falcon or comondoor/opal , they have too many models and then add to that all those other makes and models coming onshore prices ahve not fropped.

    len

    #532506
    Airgead
    Member

    No one will be forced to buy a hybrid. Just buying a 4 cylinder car instead of a V8 will do wonders.

    We just bought a new car because our kids could no longer fit in the old one. Its twice the size but we shopped around and bought something really efficient. its a high efficiency diesel. It uses less than half the fuel then the old car. And it wasn’t more expensive than the petrol option.

    We drove from Sydney to Cooma and back on a single tank of fuel using around 4l/100km. A friend who drove their v8 down there used 16l/100km.

    Buying smarter is the key. And higher fuel efficiency standards. And cars designed to use less fuel (which the carbon price will help encourage).

    On the dollar, economically, the falling dollar will make imports more expensive and make locally produced cars more competitive… which is kind of the reverse of what you are saying. And driving fuel higher is (in my opinion) a good thing because it will encourage people to use less.

    #532507
    Bullseye
    Member

    Blimey, two topics now, one for each lung?

    Neither “topics” are attributed to the CO2 tax…

    Please the world needs someone to invent bollocks generators for electricity.

    #532508
    Xio
    Member

    The self styled world’s greatest treasurer gave the Ford Motor Co $100 m 12 months ago & they have still lost $120 m +, according to their CEO, today.

    Xio

    #532509
    Xio
    Member

    I’ve decided to write a letter to Mr Wayne Duck telling him I want a development grant because I’ve worked out how to turn water into wine 😆

    Xio

    #532510
    Anonymous
    Guest

    so ford got a hand out as well xio?

    what a waste of good money giving the general one as well.

    len

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