June 23, 2008 at 6:15 am #349206
My son is 4 months old and we will be homeschooling him.
I come from a family who will probably ridicule me and fight me about this seeing as my aunty/godmother is a teacher!
I am getting some great ideas here on how to tackle the questions we are already getting asked. I am thinking about writing a letter of explanation and posting a copy to my whole family and hopefully that will give them our reasons, and hopefully produce some understanding.June 23, 2008 at 2:11 pm #349207
I have been lucky in my homeschooling journey, over the past 5 years I’ve only had one bewildered SIL ask me, very seriously “But how will you know how they are going if you don’t send them to school”. She just didn’t get that we don’t compare ourselves to anyone, not even each other! That’s the extent of my HS opposition I’ve experienced. Most people (complete strangers at shops) are inquisitive when the ask “No school today?” and I say, “No, we homeschool”. It seems to be more accepted now, but if I had a dollar for everytime I was asked that question I’d have a heap of dollars!!!
Here is another tongue in cheek/comedy relief on how you WANT to reply to their questions, but just can’t. Enjoy.
Top 10 Answers You Should NEVER Give to the Question “What?! No School Today?”
10. Well, normally yes, but this time of year I need help with the planting and plowing.
9. Goodness, no!!! I graduated 18 years ago, but thanks for the compliment!
8. No, we homeschool. We’re just out to pick up a bag of pork rinds and some Mountain Dew, then we gotta hurry home to catch our soaps.
7. What?! Where did you guys come from?! I thought I told you to stay at school! I’m sorry. This happens all the time. (sigh)
6. There isn’t? Why, you’d think we’d see more kids out then, don’t you?
5. We’re on a field trip studying human nature’s intrusive and assumptive tactics of displaying ignorance and implied superiority. Thanks for the peek!
4. On our planet we have different methods of education. (Shhh! No, I didn’t give it away…keep your antennae down!)
3. Oh my goodness! I thought that today was Saturday…come on kids, hurry!
2. Noooooope. Me ‘n Bubba jes’ learns ’em at home. Werks reel good!
And the number one answer we should NEVER give to the question: “What? No school today?”
1. “What? No Bingo today?”
I love it. Homeschooling Rocks! :metal:June 23, 2008 at 8:32 pm #349208
We had a few comments from some of my sisters like, ” but would they be accepted by any uni’s” I promptly told her its not a matter of wheather a uni that only has some knowledge accepting my child. It’s wheather we would consider sending our children to a uni that really only has a limited amount of teaching ability.
I also informed my family and friends that the governments and teaching establishments have had several hundred years to reach the standard we live in today. But we are not going to be a puppet to be played on a string by these powers. My children are free thinkers and will work to improve the world we live in not the pockets of the multinationals.
DennisJune 23, 2008 at 8:38 pm #349209
love my girlsMember
Your #2 I have used before, they stop dead in their tracks. 😆
Another handy one is “Nah, they’ll wag it anyways so I just let em do it where I can see em”
“Doctor won’t let them go back till the contagious rash goes” 😆
Really need to learn to keep my sick sense of humour to myself sometimes.June 23, 2008 at 10:16 pm #349210
love my girls and Elemque, thats some funny stuff! must remember those, with my sarcastic nature I’m likely to use them. Thanks for the giggle.
JenAugust 26, 2008 at 7:10 am #349211
Oh, I’m loving this thread! I’m going to have to print some of those out to use when we announce our HS plans to family :tup:September 7, 2008 at 11:15 am #349212
Lots of ideas … must have touched a raw nerve or two?
My experiences are mostly negative or passive resistant – the kind that get in the children’s ear or run them through a quick IQ test while dad’s not in eartshot. After a proper roasting over Christams dinner some years ago by my partner’s uncle (yeh I know) I came to the conclusion that you only need to persuade those that matter or cut them loose.
The best card you have in your deck is the child. Hold off until your relo’s have to know and then let the child display their superior social, academic yada yada skills as a way of proving you right.
Resistence comes in all shapes and sizes and it sucks – saboteurs are the pits.
Oh, you need to convince yourself your 99% for it too – otherwise it shows.
Once you”re outside the box your a fair target.
Best wishes!September 18, 2008 at 7:36 am #349213
I like to ask questions right back at the person.
For example, “How much do you remember from what you learnt at school? Would you be able to pass your final exams today? Of what you do remember, how much do you use regularly at home or at work?”
“Did you enjoy school? Would you have attended school if you’d been given the choice between school and staying home?”
(when you get the big S question) “So, how many of your primary school friends do you still see daily, weekly or regularly? Have you made friends since you left school (through work, hobbies, partner’s friends etc)? Are all of your friends almost exactly the same age as you?” and so on. Or even simply “How can we justify school? Why would you choose to send your child there?” (most parents don’t think about it).
You can give them lots to think about.November 28, 2008 at 12:27 am #349214
I’m really hoping the guy that made the Zeitgeist doco’s does one on the education system so we can just give everyone the dvd for christmas 🙂February 15, 2009 at 11:10 am #349215
The most asked question from people is they are worried for the home schooler not having enough interaction with other kids… This is not true in our case as she gets more interaction with a variety of kids, not just the ones that are in the local school… Also we have found home school kids communicate easier with grown ups.August 18, 2009 at 12:34 pm #349216
Rene and JohnMember
Im going to get this thread going again if I can,
DH & I are seriously considering homeschooling dd’s 10 & 5 (dd 10 to different dad) & DH works at our local school:lol: He is a disability aide though, not a teacher….well I should say, not a qualified teacher as his duties often go above & beyond his job description.
There is no high school within 70km of us & I do not think it is healthy for my 12 – 13 yo to get on a bus at 7am & not get off again till 4.30 -5pm. I also do not (personally) think it is healthy for “my” babies to board away from home so young (if ever, my babies belong with me). So we are thinking that high school at least, I will do at home. There are other factors like the fact that today DD10 asked us to help her learn her times tables, which we agreed to. She had bought the table home & asked us to quiz her, & soon found that the only one she really knows is her “2’s”:jawdrop: her ‘”3’s” are so so. She then informed us that the teacher had noted this & told her that we needed to help her improve….can someone tell me what he is being paid for then???:p I remember having to drone the tables out every morning at school till it was burned into your brain. Our DD5 who is in pre school has come home with some of the most unusual for us & sometimes disturbing & frustrating behaviour, which other mums have shrugged off as “normal” when starting kindy & I shouldnt worry about it.
Any way we have come accross some opposition (mainly ex H) & quite judgemental attitudes. Im not really worried what people think, as I will home school in the end if thats what we decide, no matter what people say, but I have to say its really aggravating when there seems to be a broken record in the “mainstream” that asks us “what about their social side of things?”:geek: I usually answer that my children do alot of socialising & sports & see their peers & will continue to do so even if HS’d, and I even had some rude person tell me that I would still be disadvantaging my children socially:@ I would think that the children my DD5 has learned her “un social” behaviour from are more disadvantaged, as they need to go out in the big wide world one day with crap social skills, & they went to school! Ive had people look at me like Im a freak, or ask how I will find the time with all my other parenting duties. And I have also had people trying to scare my DD10 away from the idea:@ so any great stories that I can relay to her would be nice.
Im in WA & as I dont know too much about the HS community yet I am wondering is there an online, keep in touch with other HS’d kids, & parents kinda thing happening? (I know there may be threads that talk about this but I havnt got through all the threads yet)
As yet both children are still at the local p school as we are wanting to research it thoroughly & have a few handy retorts to throw back at the poo pooers that might just keep them quite at least.August 18, 2009 at 8:52 pm #349217
Please bear in mind that this is all hypothetical as I am not a parent. But i do take an interest in the lives of young people and the things that affect them as it is of paramount importance to many of my friends.
I live next door to a home-schooled family of 9 children. I feel that the size of the family impairs the ability of the parents to assess each child individually and as a result one, at least, who appears to have behvioural problems, is not getting appropriate professional intervention. At school in a small country town, his behaviour would be more noticeable and this would work to his advantage (i,e he would get the help he needs). Also, these children are home-schooled from infancy. The eldest daughter (17) chooses to remain at home for her tertiary training also. I have invited her out to a social activity and found she was ill at ease and uncomfortable with strangers, had no ability to engage in light conversation and her understanding of basic maths was also seriously worrying (if it could be done on the calculator, fine, if it had to be written down she was not even sure how to do that). In this family, mum does everything from schooling the kids to organising workmen to do the jobs her husband is too ‘sick’ to do, to cooking, washing, etc while her husband loafs around and plays king of the kingdom. I suspect the schooling process has become an exercise in sitting the kids around the table and wishful thinking.
Another family i know have two children who went to Highschool in Hobart. One boarded with a family there, the other commutes daily. Leaving home at 7 and returning around 5. This child competes at national level in triathlons.
From this, and other examples, I could cite, i have concluded that whichever education system you use, the engagement of the parents in the educational process is essential. Those parents who send their kids off to school and expect them to come home educated, will end up with kids who scrape through. Those who actively engage in their educational process (as the latter family does) will get kids who achieve their optimum capability.
I could read and do simple sums before I started school at the age of 3. This was because my parents taught me as they read to me each evening and did simple sums with us as games as we travelled in the car. We could not possibly have got to age 10 without our parents failing to notice we did not know our times table as this would have been picked up in those number games we used to play.
I am not sure that home-schooling is the solution to all the ills in the educational field. Unless you can ensure that you can develop your children to a point where they can be competetive in the real world (whatever that is), I would be more inclined to go down the path of formal education, supplemented by parently engagement in their after-school hours.August 18, 2009 at 10:10 pm #349218
Good grief HG! Rene was asking for support, not more of the same! :confused: Of course there are some families homeschooling out there whose kids may not be doing so well in your eyes, but if you could equally well apply that same logic to kids who go to school. Ooooh, you know, there’s a family down the road from me whose kids go to school, they have no manners, two of them can’t read … I’d think carefully before sending your kids to school. It would be funny if it didn’t get so boring when you’ve heard it a million times, as homeschoolers do.
Rene if this is what you want to do, of course you can do it. My advice would be to join an online support group where you will get lots of support and helpful advice from people who know about it because they’re doing it. I’m on The Rockpool. http://www.rockpoolhomeschool.org/index.php/newhome It’s a very friendly forum, lots of info on the site. Many of the parents are ex-teachers, and some have some kids in school and some homeschooling, or their kids used to go to school, so they’re well placed to help you work your way through making a decision about what’s right for you.
:hug:August 19, 2009 at 12:09 am #349219
HG does have a point… it is how engaged the parent is in the child’s education… you can’t just sit them around the table and indulge in ‘wishful thinking’ Home Ed is full on. But that doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be done… or that it can’t be better than anything else offered. I Home Ed, and have done since day dot, and I have to say Rene, that given the choices you have, it is the only decision I would make 😀 ( actually, it is the only choice I make even though I have other options ;))
Socialisation is over rated…. where else is society peer exclusive…. oh I know, it’s not… only ever in the school class room).
HG is also right to suggest that home ed does not always work… there are ‘bad examples’ which we constantly have to face down, just like there are in ‘instutionalised’ systems.
My favourite story was one the manager of our local PCYC told me. My kids go there for archery. Apparently somehow the topic of home ed came up (don’t know how). This one lady turned around and stated that she “hated” home educators and thought that their kids were awful ( so glad I was NOT there!!!) Apparently my kids were shooting so they did not hear the remark ( for which I am also grateful) The PCYC manager did hear it though and instantly pulled her up. Told her that she couldn’t be more wrong and see those kids shooting right now, they are both home schooled and you couldn’t find lovlier kids ( well, you prolly could 😉 )…and what’s more… see that kid over there… well his mother is considering home education based on these kids’ example and as a result of comparing their experience to her son’s in the school (not to do with academic, but rather social) system.
Well, God bless my friend…. for saying what she said… and for telling me about it :tup:
My kids aren’t over achievers, my son does not aspire to play team sports (hence the archery) and they can be truly lazy buggers at times. I can’t tell you it isn’t hard sometimes, because it is. The hardest bit isn’t the academics though, it’s the thing that every parent every where should be doing anyway, and that is training their caracters. But be encouraged, because I would not do it differently for anything.
When someone asks you about socialising… ask them to define what they mean (many can’t and it helps you set up the answer).
All the best with whatever decision you makeAugust 19, 2009 at 12:24 am #349220
My nieghbours young daughter, a very caring lass, was not happy when she was telling her mother about her class of 30 youngsters.
She said “I know the few top kids and the ones at the bottom of the class but the majority I really dont know at all.
Only thier names and that they get on with the work, dont cause trouble”
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