October 25, 2008 at 9:23 pm #355832MargoMember
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Fungus! thanks worowa
came home to find one of my first batches has lots of yellowy liquid / marks on the top – is this bad?October 26, 2008 at 12:10 am #355833
I’d missed a few posts on here… I’ve been tucking mine in a warm place but perhaps I need to put them in the fridge instead!
Here’s a pic of what’s going on with the ones I put in my seed propagator. They are at 20+ C and have got much fluffier than the ones still sitting on my windowledge by the ferns outside.
Perhaps I ought to take one of each and put them in the fridge overnight and see if that moves them on a bit 😀
I have a frantic weekend now, and a frantic week ahead of me so I don’t expect to be able to do anything with the new bag till next Saturday, by which time I will be breathing a big sigh of relief and enjoying a bit of free time to ‘play’ :tup:October 26, 2008 at 12:41 am #355834
They are very fluffy Tiddlypom. Looks like cotton wool balls. See what Worowa says but I would have sterilised the proprogator first if I was going to try it. Could be other things growing – like a cotton ball tree!
Yeh, I’m going to wait to see how the first batch goes in case I stuff it up. At the moment I’ve have them outside cause it’s been warm but the temps dropped so will bring them back in. I’ve got them in a big plastic box whitish clear so the light gets thru. Some are fluffing better than others. I did sterilise the box but I keep going and opening it and picking them up.
What are the seedlings growing in the blue tray?
VicOctober 26, 2008 at 9:00 am #355835
It’s rosemary cuttings in the blue tray. Whether they are ‘growing’ or not is currently a debatable issue… 2 have definitely karked it. 😐
From what we’ve been told, once the pot is fully colonised we shouldn’t need to keep it sterile??? So I haven’t! Whether that’s right only time (and Worowa) will tell 🙂October 26, 2008 at 9:18 pm #355836
Margo-the yellow liquid is a natural exudate made by the mycelium, nothing to worry about. Sometimes they still fruit, other times I use them in the garden-just bury them so the top is covered by a few cms of soil or mulch.
Tiddlypom-they look fine. Put one in the fridge, but cover it first. It looks like the fruits are starting to form-pinning is the term. It does help to keep things clean, but the 2 species you have are very tough, and once colonized should be fine.
Vicki-they seem to like temperature drops to initiate fruiting. The mycelium however grows more quickly with warmth.
It’s normal for some batches to grow slower than others.
My advice is-keep making more spawn-e.g. use one small container to make 5 more small containers, and then use some to spawn a bulk substrate in a bigger container. And experiment with your substrates.
The more mycelium you have, the less worried you need to be about sterillizing or pasteurizing your bulk substrates. It is still worthwhile, but once these two species are established, they can coexist with all sorts of soil organisms.
Looking forward to seeing some shrooms soon.
I’m going to harvest a monster for dinner tonight, I’ll take some photos.
Good luckNovember 2, 2008 at 8:54 am #355837
I’ll get some wheat tomorrow and get another batch going. I assume you mean to take one of the batches I have made myself. I kept half of the bag you sent me, didn’t trust myself – mainly because I am vacola-ing. I was think about sterilising in the microwave and then vacola-ing to make sure it’s sterile this time.November 7, 2008 at 6:23 am #355838
Is this what I think it is????
Good job it was in a clear pot – I realised something was growing down inside so I popped it out into a crate with a lid, so I have some control over humidity, pollutants – and my kitten 😆November 7, 2008 at 9:13 pm #355839
Yep, congratulations, those little babies are King Oysters:clap:
Over the next few days, one mushroom should explode in size.
They often start developing at the sides and bottom. Most will be little, but the ones we want turn into giants.
From a small amount of substrate, like in those tubs, you can still get a good little harvest. The great thing is, you can then use the rest of that substrate to spawn bigger loads, or bury it in a pot or the garden, and continue to get more mushies.;)
Here’s an article I found the other day
And did you watch the cook and the chef this week? They visit a mushroom farm in Tassie.November 7, 2008 at 9:57 pm #355840
Tiddlypom, this is really exciting!!! :clap::clap::clap:
Is it about six or seven weeks to this stage?
Worowa, thanks for the tip about the cook and the chef clip. I was so excited to see one in action. Three things surprised me:- Firstly, they had those little flies in there, that made me feel better. Secondly they just took them out of the bags and put them free on the shelves rather than hang from bags. And third that they weren’t really wearing protective clothing whilst filming.
I am starting to think about using the disused tank again. It has a manhole in the top which I could cover with perspex to let light in. It is sort of dampish though not wet because the tank next door has water in it. Kings don’t really need the ventilation do they? We put a door in it. (It’s not really a water tank – it’s an old concrete vat because our place use to be a winery) What do you think?
Where do you buy the bags? Can you use them in the microwave and the vacola?
I have started my second batch of king oyster. Might wait to hear about the bags first before starting on the hypsyzigus ulmarius. What’s the street name? Running out of containers!
VicNovember 7, 2008 at 10:16 pm #355841
The Shiitake were out of the bags, that’s normal once they’re colonized.
The disused tank sounds perfect! Just clean it well.
The street name is shimeji in Australia. It’s running fast ATM, so I would make some more substrate, so you can bury blocks in your brassica beds.
The bags are fine in microwave and vacola. I get them from the USA, minimum order of 1000 bags, and they’ve just doubled in price:|, but you can use other bags for your bulk runs, such as kitchen tidy bags. I have also used snap lock sandwich bags for smaller batches.
There are some new links on my links page, with companies that sell smaller orders of bags.
Kings will need some ventillation, especially once they’ve colonized.November 8, 2008 at 6:59 am #355842
Thanks for confirming for me Worowa, can’t wait for them to produce something edible now!
Vicki, they went into their pots on 23rd September – so yes, about 6.5 weeks. Must say it seems a lot more – but then I’ve always been the impatient sort 😆January 31, 2009 at 5:36 am #355843
I musty apologise for the delay in updates – I have had my parents staying for 2 months, having just moved to Australia, and the whole mushroom project (along with a few others…) has been on hold. Yesterday they moved into their own place and now I am beginning to pick up a few threads from where I left off. 😆
I never did manage to grow any of the king oysters, the first batch you sent me Worowa. However, here is a pic of the 2nd lot, the Hypsyzigus ulmarius. I didn’t get around to inoculating new substrate and lef them to fruit in the original bag, which seemed to suit them.
Now that I have the time to turn my attention to these again, I have come back to the pots and bags of rather dried-up remains, have you any suggestions whether it’s worth trying to reconstitute these and get them going again? If so what’s the best way? The only one which has a chance of being just the original batch of fungus is the first bag, which I resealed with some of the grain spawn still in it. The others have probably been contaminated by all and sundry by now, judging by the number of small flies that congregate around them :confused:
I am now our official office composter, which means I get all the spent coffee grounds from the coffee machine – about 2 litres volume per day. Can I use these for mushies?January 31, 2009 at 8:36 pm #355844
That’s great Tiddlypom! Congratulations.
The dried up substrate is probably fine, I would either soak it in water for 24 hours, or bury them in pots of coir and sand, water well, and wait. I usually get a few more flushes that way. King Oysters seem to handle contamination easily, once they’re established. And you can try using them as spawn.
Spent coffee grounds are widely used for growing mushrooms, usually added to sawdust. Now my kids are finally off to schooll:D, I’ll have some time to do some more mushroom work-so I’ll be playing with coffee grounds. I’ll let you know how I go.May 27, 2009 at 1:08 am #355845debbieMember
wow how interesting, thank you for sharing your wisdom and knowledge, debbie:wave:
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