April 17, 2009 at 12:04 am #247734
A couple of my chickens have symptoms of coccidiosis – stopped laying and blood in faeces. I have been madly researching treatments and the ones readily available at the pet shop say DO NOT USE with layer chickens. Has anyone used Amprol or know where to get it?
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated 🙁April 17, 2009 at 12:17 am #406159
Here is a link to Backyard Poulty. Scroll down and there are several links for Coccidiosis. Sorry to hear about your chooks being sick.
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Thanks Gianna, I have had a look at those links but still not clear on what is safe for laying birds. I rang the poultry supplier as well and they said to use sulfa products even though it says not to on the bottle and i have read on some of the websites not to. The poultry lady said to just not eat the eggs for a couple of weeks.April 17, 2009 at 1:25 am #406161
Hope your chooks get well soon:)April 17, 2009 at 1:26 am #406162
Oh sorry if this sounds dumb but can you ring a vet and ask?
They might be able to tell you if you cant find a answer?:hug:April 17, 2009 at 1:34 am #406163
i rang the vet and they said that they didn’t have any treatments on site and to research it myself. they basically said that it would be a waste of money to come in for a consult when they couldn’t give me any treatment to take away with me. will try the other vet in town but thought i try this avenue first. thanks for your posts :hug:April 17, 2009 at 1:37 am #406164
Wow sorry about that Possum Lodge.
May i ask did you ring a country vet?
Just cos i got some around here i could see if they could tell me?
They deal with alot of livestock.
Just a thought if you need it :tup:April 17, 2009 at 1:56 am #406165
just contacted a horse vet i know and she doesn’t know much about chickens but is going to research for me. main thing is that there seems to be product called amprolium that is safe for eggs but i don’t know where to get it. someone on the backyard poultry forum just said that it is ok to use the sulphur but don’t eat any of the eggs for a couple of weeks. just not sure why it says on the packet not to… maybe i should try the manufacturer.
i know i’m probably being anal and im a bit worked up about helping the chickens but i figure that the warning must be there for a reasonApril 17, 2009 at 2:01 am #406166
I would treat the birds if i was you as it only says not to as they produce eggs. Just do not eat the eggs they may lay for a few weeks or month or whatever the holding period it says for the product. If you don’t treat them they could/will die from it.
I have had it in my chooks years ago when i had them and they responded really well after i started treatment with product Baycox. But just check that is ok, I put it in thier drinking water, but if they are really bad then you may have to give it orally. And i am surprised the vet rekons they didnt have anything for coccidiosis.
Ps i have treated guinea pigs with baycox too for coccidiosis, it seems to treat a large range of animals.
Good luck with it all.
KateApril 17, 2009 at 2:42 am #406167
Go ahead and treat them. They’re not going to be laying anyway if they have coccidiosis, and if you don’t treat them they’ll probably die.
PApril 17, 2009 at 6:19 am #406168
Let’s slow down with this â€” are you sure it’s cocci and not worms?
Annual moulting would explain the lack of eggs.
Older chooks should have immunity to their local cocci strains, unless they’re also undernourished or have respiratory disease. They can still get it, just not that often.
Do you use commercial wormers, or do you rely on garlic?
I would say, at the risk of contradicting ALS standard practice, that unless a chook keeper combines paddock rotation with other organic worm controls, it’s a bit of a losing battle. If you saw pink bits of shed intestinal lining rather than bright blood, and if the chooks are all underweight with sharp keelbones (breastbones), maybe they need worming.
But I wouldn’t worm and give cocci meds together.
Sorry if this is off track and you’re sure it’s cocci â€” this is just some extra info in case you’re not sure what they’ve got.April 17, 2009 at 9:14 am #406169
I was going to say that my chickens are in the moult now, which puts them off the lay and makes them a bit scraggly.
However, you posted this in February, from Mildura, where it was hellishly hot for quite a while then. Perhaps they were heat stressed?
Did you treat them for cocci? How did it go?April 17, 2009 at 9:47 am #406170
chooken thanks for the info. as far as i can read it is hard to diagnosis for sure but it was variable in colour with some faeces quite bright red. But I am also paranoid because people have said that as soon as you get symptoms like that it is too late. so i have given them the sulfaquin treatment today and i was planning on worming them after that has finished. I give them garlic and onion scraps and i have comfrey seeds that i am about to plant. i gave them mustard seeds today too. but if it is worms then it must be quite bad so thought i would use the commercial product this time even though i would prefer not to.
the moult doesn’t seem to really explain it because the younger ones haven’t started laying, one of the bantams just finished moulting and the other bantam hasn’t started moulting.
certainly a learning experience. I will be much more prepared for any chicken emergencies next time! so nice having all these lovely people in cyperspace being so understanding.:hug:
yes kaff it was hellish. p.s. i posted this today (april)April 17, 2009 at 10:32 pm #406171
Sorry possum lodge, I didn’t realise some were young â€”Â it might well be cocci. And I also didn’t notice the date of posting. Heat stress can certainly lower immunity, and new chooks won’t have immunity to the local cocci, so there are a lot of possibilities. The bright red droppings sound very serious.
When you do decide to worm, if you look on Backyard Poultry there’s a recipe for organic wormer, though I don’t know if it really works. It’s a mix of comfrey, garlic and a few other herbs (I think wormwood?), and if done correctly it supposedly actually worms the animal (whereas garlic in the water is just a general preventive. The active ingredient of the garlic, incidentally, is the sulphur.) I think it was posted by Denis, but not sure how you’ll find it, maybe search under ‘herbal worming’ or ‘organic worming’.
Remember to repeat the worming in 10 days so you catch the ones that have hatched between doses.
Good luck with your chookens! :wave:April 17, 2009 at 11:23 pm #406172
Hope you get some idea soon darl on what it is :hug:
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