March 3, 2010 at 8:46 pm #452616
Check out Joyous Learning as well. It’s an Australian board which has a lot of parents with kids the same age as yours, so it’s a good place for support as well as further information. http://joyouslearning.info/
I’m curious about why for some people who’ve posted, the parent who (presumably) wouldn’t be the one doing the homeschooling (or the one with the responsibility of getting the kids off to school!) is the one who seems to have the deciding vote? I know there’s a lot of misinformation and ignorance out there about homeschooling, but perhaps the reluctant partners could do some more research to see if their concerns are actually borne out by the evidence 🙂March 4, 2010 at 1:38 am #452617
My hubby’s objections stem from knowing children who were homeschooled who he turned out to be ‘weirdos’. His term, not mine. He lived in a small town and those children were not allowed to socialise with others except for sporting stuff, so that family has prejudiced his views I assume. From what he has said I think they might have been h/s based on a particular religion but I don’t know.
I have told him though that if the children were ever bullied and it was detrimental to them then I will pull them out of school immediately and homeschool them and phooey to him.
Geneste, I agree with you about it’s the parent who doesn’t have to h/s them that seems to hold the most sway. But for us, at the moment the kids are happy at their new school (they had problems at their last school with minor bullying and disruptive students) and so far I am happy with how they are going and with their teachers.
We are going away and travelling Qld/N.T for a month later in the year so I am going to use that time to ‘school’ the kids while on the road, as it will be during the term. I consider it a trial run to see if it’s something we can do and if hubby will see my view. We will be following what their classes will be doing so they won’t miss out or fall behind, but it’s still school work and routine for them as close as possible while they’re in the bush.March 26, 2010 at 10:46 am #452618
Where has all the time gone??
geneste – Thanks for the link, I intend to look at it after this. Sounds like what I am after :tup:
I see what you are saying about the decision should be the one homeschooling, however it effects everyone and he/she has a right to say how they would like their children educated too. Some people just think its weird for their kids not to be in school and have a hard time getting their head around that even if they have all the information at hand. Outside negative influences don’t help of course.
My DP is open to homeschooling but only if we register and im sure we would only be able to afford the state curriculim? I am pretty sure he will not change his mind on this but I will be researching, meeting etc to give him all the info I can.
missy71 – I get why your hubby feels that way, when that is the only example he has. Everyone is different and in his mind schooling is the only way – its hard to change when they have seen no evidence to contradict it. I am glad your kids are enjoying school and I am sure it will continue. I hope your trial schooling goes well though, enjoy your trip and let us know :tup:March 27, 2010 at 8:37 am #452619
Hiya Sally, I am remote schooling, have the greatest admiration for home schooling, but in my situation I have found it hard to find resources to home school, no I cant even get to a library.
The way we run it looks very much like home schooling, for half an hour 3 days a week we have internet/microphone contact with the teacher, so can share what we have been doing and get any feedback from her. After that we have a huge pile of books, we have lesson plans but mostly ignore them, and make up something similarish to teach the same skills. Usually more suited to our own resources and interests.
One morning a week, Jessie can ‘virtually’ attend the school assembly, see what everyone else is doing, hear from other children. After that a book reading session from the library, followed by a little free time when the children can draw their own pictures based on the story.
The curriculum is pretty loose and simple, after all, Jess is only 5 and not expected to meet many benchmarks, doesnt have to school at all except that she wants to. She reads her readers, practices some flashcard words and some writing. A bit of counting, sorting and basic bar graphs counts for maths, along with comparing sizes and shapes etc
Although some people have said that they have found negative responses to home schooling, Jessie is often asked if she is going to school yet, and she is proud to say, yes, we do our schoolwork at home, and talk to the teacher on the internet
I would be perturbed myself if there were no guidelines to ensure that children learn basic literacy and numeracy skills, but I do realise many children do not thrive in a classroom environment.
I had never thought much about the children who do distance ed, always thought it was just for the really remote. There are also lots of travelling families, our teacher also has students in Africa and Japan, some disabled and autistic children who can’t study in a classroom, what a fantastic service it is.
Ever helpful and kind even when we have had internet troubles, Im full of praise for them, and we will keep counting and sorting (vegetable seeds, not silly classroom blocks, something worth sorting!)March 27, 2010 at 9:46 pm #452620
Hope to see you over there, Sallya 🙂
Missy, sorry, I only just saw your reply 🙂 I always want to ask people who worry about homeschooled kids having no social skills, have they honestly never met anyone who went to school but came out with poor social skills anyway? As a casual teacher, you probably already know that schooling is not a foolproof recipe for social success 😉
It sounds to me that homeschooling per se wasn’t the problem with the family he knew, but the fact that the family was actively preventing their children from mixing with people outside the home. The solution to that isn’t to blame homeschooling, but just to make sure that your kids have lots of social opportunities 🙂March 27, 2010 at 11:33 pm #452621
I think the key to homeschooling is building your community. This link has links to other homeschool groups – I hear wonderful things about the brisbane unschooling group.April 13, 2010 at 6:41 am #452622
I’m unschooling my kids in QLD. I will also be registering for a few reasons. THe most affordable “curriculum” is one that the children themselves design, through their interests! Definitely head over to Joyous Learning, hopefully will see you over there!April 14, 2010 at 1:42 am #452623
another vote here for Joyous Learning (even though i am a very casual poster;-)
If you register you can get school rates when going to places like Seaworld, Wet and Wild, Underwater world etc….(I admit that is the only reason we registered the first time;-)
Home schooling isnt really just ‘home’ schooling- the kids learn though taking part in their greater community- using the library, going to local community events etc They dont just mix with children of their own age group- they learn through interaction with a broad range of people. For my son it has been a great thing because he is no longer frightened of speaking up about stuff he knows- he doesnt have to dumb himself down to keep up (or down) with his peers. He also isnt constantly on the receiving end of teasing, name calling and physical violence (he has asperger’s syndrome).
Uni entry can also be based on life skills, experiences and other learning. Someone else mentioned making scrapbooks of your learning- its a great idea of keeping track of what they are learning and also makes a handy resource to support applications to join uni.April 15, 2010 at 11:59 am #452624
Greth – Remote schooling sounds great for your situation, glad Jess is enjoying it too! You said it all in your last sentence – doing something worth doing in a range of different situations/environments.v:D
Geneste – Would love to see you in Joyous Learning, but have tried several times to register and it will not let me, says will not accept my email address. I have sent them an email about it but have had no response. Anyway will try to get a different email (i get distracted)so I can try again. Fingers crossed.
Ceres – Yes, I agree thats the key, will try your link as I am having trouble finding people in my area, cheers :tup:
Anastasia- Will have to look into the curriculims further, that one sounds good. as per above, having a little trouble with logging into Joyous Learning. :uhoh:
GF – Will definantly do something like that, thanks :tup:
I just think they are in school for around 12 years of their lives, and how much time is spent on the things that are really “important” and yes that does include math, english, science and social skills to name a few. :tup:April 15, 2010 at 12:21 pm #452625
Seems that joyous learning does not like gmail accounts so perhaps you have an account like that?
I had to use a more “official” one to register and all went ok..
I homeschooled (briefly) my older son, was a challenge with a youngin and newborn but also a great time in a lot of ways.
Still love to keep up on the info and use it as I can!April 15, 2010 at 11:27 pm #452626
We pulled our 3 boys out of primary school when they were 8(twins) and 7 in 1991. Disgruntled with Ed system in NSW.
The wife battled with NSW Dept Ed for a couple of years whilst HS. We moved to Tas 1993 and kept HS, the boys attended the local high school for Music and Art things we just could not teach.
Came back to Sydney 1998 still HS.
Eldest twin started Uni (Engineering degree) at age 16, swapped to Astro Physics because not enough maths in civil engineering/ Now has degrees in Maths, Astro Physics and funnily a Grad Dip in Education, currently studying Master of Maths
Youngest twin started Uni (Computing Degree) at age 16.5, graduated 20, went on to complete Masters and PhD.
Youngest boy is the “hands on” one, he’s the Mr Fix-it
I take no credit for how they turned out, DW did 95% of the teaching.
Things we learned.
Love your kids for who they are.
Teach the basics reading writing, maths, research. (If you can do all of those there is nothing you cannot do/learn)
Keep examples of work to show learning progression
Go to bookshops, do not overlook older versions of text books
Learn what works for your kids (formal/informal lessons? number of repetitions to reinforce concepts etc)
Everything is a learning experience (shopping becomes a mental arithmetic exercises, bush walks can cover every subject)
Keep to a routine (Our boys did “book work”/formal type lessons 9-12 7 days a week)
Have a timetable tailored to the kids weaknesses
Encourage reading, discuss what they are/have read.
Encourage debate/discussion/argument (force the kids to defend a point of view this is great for confidence building & conflict resolution skills)
I am sure I have missed many points
HS can be done successfully.
BTW DW dropped out of school year 9, so you do not need to be a genius for HS to work
Believe in what you are doing
Commit to HS for the long term. Many of our friends tried HS “to see what it is like” because it was “trendy” and failedApril 18, 2010 at 11:36 am #452627
What a wide variety of experiences! I’ll never forget 13 years ago when I first looked into homeschooling, one of the ‘pioneers’ said to me on the phone “For every family who homeschools, there’s a different version of what homeschooling is like.” And it’s so true! We have always homeschooled our six children aged 6 to nearly-16. With babes-in-arms, toddlers underfoot and now with six of schooling age. 🙂
You don’t need to register until your child is 6.5 years in Qld.
80% of Qld homeschoolers don’t register at all.April 18, 2010 at 12:04 pm #452628
bella, how did you go teaching your kids to read and write from the beginning?
I didn’t have to do that with my older boy, so I always wondered how parents feel about tackling that.
It’s something that I seem to be shy of…..Do I have what it takes to go through all the “patient” stages of phonics and reading comprehension…..April 20, 2010 at 11:58 am #452629
Jen, for each child I used a different method! DD1 was 3 when she learned to read and she mostly figured it out by herself, with some games thrown in to keep it fun.
DDs 2 & 3 I used fairly standard methods of using word lists and early readers and games and they also picked up reading by around 5 years old. DD2 has a few issues with spelling, still, and we work on that by going over rules etc with the THRASS chart. She has responded better to using sight words, whilst DD3 understood phonics better. I guess that is where the difference in spelling abilities comes up too?
DS1 I tried all the same methods but he wasn’t interested. When he was 8 he finally progressed beyond easy readers to read anything he wanted all on his own during a summer break when we moved house and did no ‘lessons’. He is now nearly 11 and has excellent spelling and comprehension which I can’t take credit for. 🙂
DD4 and DS1 are at the basics still, at 7 and 6 years old currently. They are using early readers, and the Reading Eggs program (computer). DD takes awhile to remember things, and DS seems to pick it all up with ease. They are all so very different!
So we used a combination of most methods out there mixed with waiting till they’re ready to read.
It’s not too overwhelming when you allow them the time they need, and make it fun. We have not use a lot of bookwork and repetition, just as much as they’ve wanted to do. The ones who can read fluently all love to read for pleasure, and the others are happy with their progress and keen to be able to read for themselves.
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