April 27, 2012 at 12:30 am #523731
Well we now own some meal worms 🙂 I have them in an old plastic non tupperware container, fairly tall but not too big at the moment. Will find something bigger soon and thinking of having 3 containers to try and keep the life cycle going! We got a big bag of bran from the feed place and some potato peels. Looking forward to watching them multiply and sharing them with the chooks!April 27, 2012 at 1:57 pm #523732SnagsMember
Bel post=342762 wrote:
How do they compare protein fat wise to soldier fly larva ?
Good question Snags. I have no idea. I don’t imagine they would have as much protein as BSF, but you never know….
just googled a bit
MW ;Crude protein 51%; Crude fat 30%
BSF;42% protein and 35% fat
they seem to stack up very well
major down side is availability of bran to feed them and BSF eat everything and self harvest too.
Great if you can get bran and potato peelings cheaply though,I think you would need to get to 60% protein and less fat to be a good fish food in an aquaponic set up.
THis could be done by mixing a low fat high protein additive maybe Moringa????April 27, 2012 at 2:40 pm #523733
Bel, what is a biopod??
i’ve never looked into fat/protien content, just assumed it was a good investment, I imagine that the bran is mainly for commercial supply purposes, as I said, I’ve found them in the garden before, I might try them in a mix of leaf litter and pine needles in one of my buckets – see how they go with that.
Can’t hurt to try. :tup:April 27, 2012 at 3:12 pm #523734
well, I did it, I took a bucket and walked around outside, I gathered some dry leaf litter, some sandy soil and old worm castings from the garden and some pine needles that I chopped up (just coz I don’t like pine needles) and I’ve put five meal (exactly) worms in the bucket. A handful of potato peelings that were left on the kitchen bench :angry: , I’ll try to add the picture here and I’ll also try to remember to update in a few weeks/months.April 27, 2012 at 3:23 pm #523735marigoldMember
Fruitful, the bran is their food, they are meal worms after all. The fruit/vegetable peels are their moisture source. I would expect your five worms to pupate sharpish when they can’t find any food.
Do let us know though, your meal worms may be more resourceful than my mealworms :cheer:April 27, 2012 at 4:00 pm #523736
thanks for that info marigold, I revised my plan and did exactly the same thing with five beetles – I may now just add a handful or two of bran to their containers and see if they fare well. I wonder how the ones that I find in the garden manage to survive?? Admittedly there are never heaps, just the odd one here and there (usually they are whoppers too) but they must find another food source.
edited to add:
DOH, just clicked on the link above and found out they feast on decaying leaf litter and dried grass etc, I’ll skip the bran and just some grass and THEN see how they fare, could be even cheaper than I first thought!!! Gotta love not having to go to the shops!!!! :clap:
I guess they are also a survival food too for when hard times happen! :sick: :shrug:April 27, 2012 at 4:35 pm #523737SnagsMember
fruitful post=342805 wrote: Bel, what is a biopod??
you can make your own tooApril 28, 2012 at 1:39 pm #523738
ahhh yes, thanks Snags, I have seen something like this before, how nice of the soldier fly larvae to make their own way into a collection area, pity the meal worms don’t do the same, it could be a fully automatic system then too.May 6, 2012 at 1:29 am #523739
Hi, our meal worms are going fantastic! Still in the small container but will change this week. My 2 year old took a few down to the chooks yesterday and they loved them! He also liked playing with them for awhile! Poor worms, last minutes of their lives being carried around by a 2 year old :ohmy:May 7, 2012 at 12:24 am #523740gypsyoakMember
they are pretty cool! We used to grow them at work as well as crickets to chuck in with some of the animals. They used to like carrot and apple as we didn’t really use a lot of potatoes. They were never fed in great quantities though, as they are good at putting weight on animals! Great for encouraging natural behavior though! :tup:May 8, 2012 at 5:45 pm #523741
I’m glad this post came up again, I had intended to spritz the two buckets in which I had put those five beetles and five worms in with just soil, leaf litter and grass but I’d forgotten. I’ve now written mealworms on my little spray bottle that lives on the back verandah (I use to the spray seedling trays with) so I should not forget them!! Glad your lot are doing well lmd80, isn’t it easy???!
:clap:May 9, 2012 at 12:55 pm #523742treetopsdreamingMember
Hi fruitful (and everyone else on this thread). Thank you for sharing your photos and your instructions on how to take care of these creatures. I have found this thread so interesting – and, the idea of growing either meal worms or solider fly larvae is very appealing. I’m starting to think that farming various insects might be the key to keeping other systems more sustainable over time…May 9, 2012 at 3:08 pm #523743
glad to have inspired you Elaine and Ben, I was pretty excited when I first discovered how many worms there were after my unintentional neglect!! I’m happy to have learned quite a bit about them too, and the soldier fly larvae, it’s next on my list of things to grow!!!
I love it when a thread comes up and you manage to achieve something new and worthwhile as a result.
:cheer:May 10, 2012 at 1:25 am #523744
So again still haven’t moved into a bigger container but they are thriving! The site I read suggested you couldn’t keep them all together, do I need 3 containers or just one big one? And the soldier fly larvae, how do you get these?May 11, 2012 at 1:23 pm #523745
lmd80, I’ve separated ours on occasion, as I did in the buckets, worms in one and beetles in the other, this is because both will eat the eggs that the beetles lay but the larger tank pictures that I first posted are just left as they are – I imagine a lot of eggs are eaten but because that tank is simply teeming with meal worms there must be many many more eggs that are not eaten, so really it is up to you what you do. I would guess that a smaller container would suffer more but that is more of a restricted numbers thing, the bigger the container the more you will get out of it! Also if you separate them it is more work because you have to be monitoring them to catch them at their different stages.
From what I have read the soldier flies are out there, it’s only a matter of creating a “friendly” environment for them to congregate into (the biopod) and ‘if you build it, they will come!’, having said that, Bel mentioned that she had a biopod and there were no soldier flies so obviously there are none in her area. :shrug:
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