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August 8, 2012 at 7:34 pm #257207
I just got a new bill today and it had gone up over 20% – we’re now at 30.33 / 30.31 per kWh. I believe 10% of it is the carbon tax and the other 10% is Origin increasing their rates at the same time.
Anyway, what I’m wondering is, has anyone got a plan with a super dooper rate that hasn’t had such a large price increase? Luckily our daily usage is only 8.07 kWh per day whereas supposedly most people use 15.2 in winter, but even then the bill seems exorbitant.August 8, 2012 at 10:11 pm #526893
This is an interesting article on Power prices
The Independent Pricing and Regulatory Tribunal and the Australia Energy Market Commission also provide precise cost breakdowns of bills that refute carbon tax alarmism.
Spending on transmission and distribution networks accounts for 57 per cent of the average household bill and 40 per cent of scheduled increases between 2011-12 and 2013-14.
The industry seeks to divert blame to green energy programs – renewable energy targets, feed-in tariffs, energy efficiency and demand management – but these total only 6 per cent of the average bill.
Rising retail margins had a bigger impact, the AEMC says.
The industry has a perverse incentive to spend more, relying on inflated demand forecasts, because of a regulatory regime that delivers a guaranteed return based on capital expenditure and assets.
The federal government’s energy white paper estimates up to 25 per cent of electricity costs result from peak demand that occurs over less than 40 hours a year.
Demand management is by far the best way to limit costs, but the industry has no incentive to promote this.
Consumer demand, which is price-sensitive, has been falling for some years but spending submissions to the regulator stubbornly forecast strong demand growth.
The AEMC estimates up to a quarter of $45 billion in approved network spending may be unnecessary.August 9, 2012 at 12:26 am #526894
Gosh, the part where the local government included dividend increases in its budget is truly horrible.
It’s a good thing we have a warm home. We haven’t been using a heater!August 9, 2012 at 2:30 am #526895
There is a service called ‘go switch’ who claim to he able to find the best rate in your area. I’m a bit suss on them as they receive commissions straight from whoever they sign you up to. Make of that what you will.August 9, 2012 at 2:25 pm #526896
We got our power bill a couple of weeks ago and with the increase we pay $25 a week but now its up to $39 a weeek working on what the bill is divided by 12.
We are with Simply Engery We get 10% for paying it early and I get $29 from the state government for having a health care card but it was still over $250.
We have a wood fire and a gas stove and oven so all it is charged for is the house hold power and the hot water system that is on J tarrif. We turn off all the power when not in use. When I finish on the computer the power will go off till we watch Tv tonight, as its all connected together but I disconnect the stero as its not needed with the TV.
Makes me wonder if people who are off the grid will end up with a levi to make the government more money??????? :jawdrop:August 9, 2012 at 4:44 pm #526897
We are with origin too and ours went up by around 20%. I nearly died when I opened it! Absolutely ridiculous. With the wind that’s blowing on the NSW coast at the moment they could put a wind farm in my back yard and I’d make money out of them.August 9, 2012 at 4:59 pm #526898
we are in rural with ergon energy.
we see what others say is their bill but cannot understand why of how they are so high.
right now our weekly was $15 last account, even when we had a pool that was about an extra $3 per week.
right now we have 2 small fridges and a tucker box freezer running.
this house can be illuminated by any one light ie.,. desk lamp; range hood light no matter. even the glare from the TV can do the job.
we also reckon the twin tub washer saves as well, it saves lots of water.
anyhow seen some frightening power bills shown over time.
those who simply worship CO2 and its tax are waiting for the next inflation rate figures because it will show the tax has had no impact, of course they have their heads in that bucket, power and food don’t feature in the building of the stats they are smoked over, but anyway their chicken little sky won’t fall in yet, but give it time.
anyhow we feel for those with ever increasing power bills, the worst yet to come.
lenAugust 9, 2012 at 7:59 pm #526899
Come off it Len. The carbon tax is responsible for about 20% of the price rise. The other 80% is down to poles & wires. The price has been rising for the last 5 years all due to poles and wires and nothing to do with carbon taxes.
Its an inefficient energy market that leads to network gold plating and a lack of focus on demand reduction that is to blame.
The latest inflation figures show that inflation has fallen since the carbon tax was introduced. The only thing that has had a price rise is energy. Everything else has stayed the same or fallen in price…
Having said that. in response to the original post – there’s not much you can do. All retailers will put up their prices by the amount allowed by the regulator. All you can do is maybe look at going onto a contract which may have a discount associated (but won’t protect against future rises) or do some demand management.
DaveAugust 9, 2012 at 8:13 pm #526900
Miowzen you could try entering your power bill in here and I think they give a comparison, I haven’t used myself as it workAugust 9, 2012 at 8:20 pm #526901
20% is still 20% and it won’t be disappearing or going away anytime in the next millennium.
so 20% is 40% too much. it won’t push inflation up like it should so all playing with shadows.
this is about power bills and anything that increases them is not on.
lenAugust 9, 2012 at 8:41 pm #526902
20%is way too much on top of what it has risen over the past few years. I have been doing comparisons today and there is not a heck of a lot of difference between the different companies. Damned if you do and damned if you don’t if you ask me. Our only hope is to lock into a contract with another provider and from what some of the comments are on the comparison sites, once you lock in with them they have a tendancy to up the prices. So, it appears that they give the cheap prices to get you in then just bump them up anyway. :S
The only way we can cut our usage now is the hot water, sewer system and turn off the fridge. We even bought a new fridge that uses less power. Use cold water for clothes washing etc etc. You go through the tips they put out for saving power and tick of them all and think what else can I do? With a wood stove and minimal lights being used, I even charge the laptop in off peak usage at night and use solar lights where we can. I dunno. Perhaps there is a fairy in the backyard that has a power plug we can use?August 9, 2012 at 9:30 pm #526903
that’s the part they don’t get misty we can only tighten the belt so far before circulation is cut off(their real want), we have been tightening and trimming but under their greed scheme of carbon tax them to death.
it is not even then just the extra++++ to electricity, gas and petrol and food and all things will draw their own 20% tax added to what we get to pay. money hungry leeches comes to mind, no humanity in it. image in australia people sleeping in cars and caravans and in tents some with no power at all or water using wood fires for warmth and food cooking. but for our size we still rate 5th highest world donor.
the unlucky country
lenAugust 9, 2012 at 11:09 pm #526904
Our income is the same as it was 10 years ago, but electricity bills etc have doubled over that time so we’ve been trying hard not to waste electricity. A 20% jump all at once seems huge. Even though most of our money goes towards health things, we’re not entitled to a health care card.
But anyway, it wasn’t so much about complaining, thanks for those websites everyone, I’ll have a good look and see if it’s worthwhile breaking our contract.August 10, 2012 at 2:00 am #526905
I got my bill today and was very happy. I had a reverse cycle aircon put in at beginning of year. Only needed to use it for about two weeks for cooling but have really cranked it up for winter and was expecting something frightening for this bill. Power has gone up from 19.87cents to 22.62cents per unit. Daily usage averaged out to 13 units and $2.63 daily cost. Bill came to $165 but I had a credit of $90 from feed in tarrif so only had to pay $75. Phew!August 10, 2012 at 11:56 am #526906
There is compensation for the carbon tax so everyone should be about $1 better off regardless of the CO2 price rise and few dollars if you have solar.
We don’t get compensated for the gold plated wires and poles and that is going up way faster than any other price rise.
That requires a change in the way power companies have been allowed to operate.
Solar panels,wind turbines,pink batts on a million houses,the high Australian dollar killing manufacturing,compact flouro light globes and a switch to LEd LCD tvs away from Plasma has seen the wholesale price of electricity fall
More green infrastructure spending because of the carbon tax will reduce it further,but the only way to reduce our bills is to change the laws, that allow the power companies to spend billions on unnecessarily upgrading their poles and wires and passing it on to the consumer.
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