August 11, 2010 at 7:22 am #252891BullseyeMember
“Dick Smith wants to save the world from population growth, and he is willing to pay $1 million for it.
The larger-than-life Australian entrepreneur launched his Wilberforce Award at the Financial and Energy Exchange in Sydney this morning, flanked by five young blonde women, celebrity publicist Max Markson, a Chihuahua dog and an old suitcase filled with $1 million in $100 notes.
The aim of the prize is to encourage people around the world below the age of 30 to come up with the best solution to stop what Mr Smith terms society’s capitalist-driven addiction to consumption growth.” Continued…
Dick Smith on Population Growth http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo62cNCJ3CQAugust 11, 2010 at 10:46 am #473428DB346Member
Good on Dick Smith.
At a minimum it may generate some discussion amongst the sheeple.
I hope it can be done, but I don’t see how it can be done in Aust whilst maintaining economic growth. I would argue that they would appear to oppose each other within our Aust context. Population growth is a feeder for economic growth. It is one of the easiest methods to force growth, but it is also one of the most irresponsible.
Our politicians know that population growth feeds economic growth and that is why they have had an open door policy since John Howard.
Hopefully it will last for more than a day in mainstream media. (fingers crossed)August 11, 2010 at 11:25 pm #473429from the ashesMember
With the girls in tight tops around him he looks like a poor mans Richard branson lolAugust 11, 2010 at 11:30 pm #473430Ave a goMember
Don’t forget to tune in to the ABC tonight at 8:30 (check your local guides to make sure of the time:
Dick Smith’s Population Puzzle
About the series
ABC1, Thursday, 12 August at 8:30pm
High-profile entrepreneur and philanthropist Dick Smith is on a crusade to influence one of the biggest public policy issues facing the country â€“ unplanned population growth.
Dick Smith’s Population Puzzle not only investigates Australia’s long-term future, but is also a personal journey of discovery as Dick attempts to get a national debate started on the dangers of unplanned growth.
While Dick Smith has always held strong public opinions, he’d never given much thought to issues of sustainability and Australia’s population predictions. That was until a significant phone call from his daughter, Jenny, in the lead-up to the 2009 climate change conference in Copenhagen. She told him she felt it was crazy that no-one seemed to be talking about the real ‘elephant in the room’ â€“ population.
Since then, Dick’s been on a mission to understand Australia’s population puzzle. For the past six months, he’s been barn-storming nall over the country, meeting with experts, talking to ordinary Australians, giving public talks and conducting media interviews. His intention is to spark a change in national attitudes and force the federal government to repudiate its backing of rapid population growth.
The camera follows Dick Smith as he raises his conscience and that of a nation’s about this complex and controversial issue.
I have heard him on the radio several times of the past couple of months talking about, population, peak oil, food security etc. So should be good to watch.August 11, 2010 at 11:34 pm #473431
Well, the only sustainable growth is zero or negative, according to Tim Flannery (I think, it was someone like that)
I realise that having 3 kids Im not exactly the best example of a zero growth champion, so will shup now and go plant another tree.
Hope to watch anyway, very interested in such topics.August 12, 2010 at 1:00 am #473432harooneyMember
I heard him on the radio this morning. I sort of get mixed feelings because of the whole’ stop Australia’s growth by not letting people in” attitude. Obviously there are all these large populations in other areas of the world, but that isn’t our concern. We are not our brothers keeper? At the same time, I definitely am not a zero growth candidate, but on an Australian level, our birthrate isn’t covering natural attrition so I have no qualms there. Not everybody wants to have 2, 3 or even ANY children and a growing number can’t without medical intervention and even then it’s not guaranteed. I can see it would be easy to stabilize our population if immigration were reduced.
In particular I really like the whole “stop the economy growth” aspect. I really dislike selling off our natural resources and assets to other countires like there is no tomorrow. Also last night was the clip showing a HUGE car factory in China making cars from our raw materials. “You get a part of Australia back when you buy one of our cars” Sheesh! Someone’s winning there and I dont think it is us. :shrug:
I did shake my head at the end of the DS radio interview when he was complaining about having to change the flight path of his 2 helicopters because of the Biggest Loser filming nearby, and boasting of them changing venues because he complained. :uhoh:August 12, 2010 at 1:11 am #473433
thanks harooney, I think 3 country kids who know how to grow veg, understand ecology, are healthy, fit, intelligent, hardworking and caring are an asset to the country too!
Kinda glad Gillard is an evolutionary dead end, just a personal view.August 12, 2010 at 1:49 am #473434slowlynowMember
I’m all for lower population/ slower population growth. However, what is the alternative… there doesn’t seem to be a rationale alternative model being produced. Just the slippery, inevitable trajectory of a ciivilisation in decline.
I do try to be positive and keep the ‘negative/ realistic’ thoughts at bay, there must be someone who can say we can do this without a serious decline in everything we know and love?August 12, 2010 at 2:05 am #473435Ave a goMember
there must be someone who can say we can do this without a serious decline in everything we know and love?
I think you will find that that is exactly what DS is trying to get across. In the interviews I have heard he keeps on saying that population growth only benefits the wealhty, like himself.August 12, 2010 at 2:21 am #473436PeterMember
At the end ofjunr 2009 the population growth rate was 2.1%
Mortality rate(deaths)6.68/1000 population
According to an A B S release on the 11/11/2009 there was296.600 biirths in Australia, the highest ever registered in a calender year
The A B S also see’s that children are projected to make up a smaller proportion of the Australian population over the coming decades, while the proportion of those aged 65 years and over is projected to increase
Net overseas migration(N O M) is the net gain or loss of population through immigration to Australia and emigration from Australia, and is based on the international travellers duration of stay being in or out of Australia on the basis of 12 months in 12 months out, therefore many international students are counted in those figures but may not stay in the country pernamently, hence the peaks and troughs.
I don’t Know the answer, it seems like it’s the devil you do or the devil you don’t!!!!…..However, I often wonder what Australia would look like if the indigenous peoples had an immigration policy!!1August 12, 2010 at 3:56 am #473437weaverMember
The aim of the prize is to encourage people around the world below the age of 30 to come up with the best solution to stop what Mr Smith terms society’s capitalist-driven addiction to consumption growth.”
Does it not seem a little strange to offer a prize of $1 million to stop capitalist driven addiction to consumption?????????:confused:August 12, 2010 at 4:19 am #473438mistyhollowsMember
Does it not seem a little strange to offer a prize of $1 million to stop capitalist driven addiction to consumption?????????:confused:
:clap: Thank you, thank you, exactly what I was thinking.August 12, 2010 at 4:41 am #473439
It doesn’t take an increase of 5% population to have a 5% increase in productivity, streamlining processes, increasing efficiency and eliminating waste could go a long way to economic growth without simply adding more people.August 12, 2010 at 4:44 am #473440harooneyMember
I did think that about the prize but then thought it could be used more as grant money. If someone is really serious about it, I wouldexpect ti would be used wisely. It isn’t something you can enter, but will be awareded by observation etc. So if someone has an agenda that could use funding and promotion the million would be handy.August 14, 2010 at 11:15 pm #473441roddam63Member
The question of population is an emotive one.
However, the simple fact is, continuous growth is impossible in a ‘closed’ system. We cannot add more arable land or drinking water or fossil fuel as we need it. What we’ve got is what we’ve got.
All commercial and political motivations for growth are based on profit not human health and well-being.
I doubt we’ll leave a better future to our children than that which was bequeathed to us.
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