July 12, 2008 at 7:23 am #244123
Just wondering what other factors besides daylight hours affect chook laying patterns? Just pondering what else I can do to get my girls laying 🙂 I’ve heard that increasing protein can help?July 12, 2008 at 7:30 am #356046Comfortable HippyMember
I had read it was just daylight.
My girls have just come back on the lay in these cold, cold conditions, :shrug: so other things might be at play.
Their current food mix has more corn. I recently put up a hession door to try to get them a bit more warmth. So they might be factors.
I clean the coop each day, so clean environment, clean water, good food, fresh scrapes, comfortable coop.
It might depend on variety too, these are isa browns.
Just look after them, they will come good soon.July 12, 2008 at 9:16 am #356047rockkandyMember
Protein meal, calcium grit and plenty of wheat to keep them warm is working for me, have had a few really cold mornings but still get at least 3 eggs from 6 girls.
The ones that lay consistantly eat the most protein meal, we let them free range in the orchard during the day too so plenty of bugs and greens.
Cheers JulieJuly 12, 2008 at 9:23 am #356048paradisiMember
check this – straight from the experts
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Thanks so much!!!!!!!!!July 14, 2008 at 9:16 am #356050
Thanks so much!!!!!!!!!July 19, 2008 at 12:07 pm #356051russellauMember
Back before my girls started to lay, I researched the topic for ages. Increased protein was the tip I was given from produce stores. I also found several web sites that said to add cayene pepper to the food. I didn’t believe it, but tried it anyway. Lo and behold, they started to lay 2 days after the cayene pepper. Coincidence maybe, but it worked.July 19, 2008 at 8:56 pm #356052AnonymousGuest
Try bandsaw dust from your butcher. You will get heaps for pretty much nothing if not free. Give about 300gr 1-2 times a week. your girls will go crazy for it. As it is all meat and bone the protein is very high and in this form would be like consuming a pile of bugs without burning to much energy looking for them.July 19, 2008 at 10:54 pm #356053
Holly is still laying…….and we’ve had snow on the hills nearby. High winds and icy gales. She may even go broody soon…..not sure that we should put fertilised eggs under her yet. Colder weather can come in August. Some say that feeding their chooks warm mash helps?? Haven’t needed to try that, so I can’t vouch for it.July 23, 2008 at 2:39 am #356054roogzMember
all the above is fantastic advise but breed and genetics also plays a role
Some breeds lay lots and lots of eggs ie Leghorns, Campines and comercial Hybrids, lowans, Hylines
Some lay a medium amout but offset things by making a great roast
Plymouth rocks, Orphingtoms, Indian Game. Hybrid meat birds
Some lay few eggs and are great as broodies, Silkies, Pekins
Some lay very few eggs and make fantasitc roasts, Malay Game, OEG
Some lay very few eggs and are good for nothing but decorations, Ducle, seabrights, some bantam game’s.
and if you have cross breds then it can be a matter of luck, but they can be very very pretty.
RoogzJuly 23, 2008 at 11:50 pm #356055colliegirlMember
Just on the breeds roogz I heard the lowmans are not fertile, is this true. Something to do with the genetics but then thought that if they are not fertile how do they breed them commercially?
Bandsaw dust, have never head of it, but I am off to the butcher to get some 😀
Also am in the process of growing a backyard garden and would like to know what veggie I can grow specifically for the chooks that isn’t too dependant on water, if you know what I mean?
ColliegirlJuly 24, 2008 at 12:48 am #356056
My chooks are wyandottes……….dunno if that matters?July 24, 2008 at 1:20 am #356057roogzMember
HI Collie Girl – Lowmans are fertile – but all the “lowman” roosters are culled at hatching. the lowman is the end product of cross breeding, so they actually look very little like the parent birds. they are what you would call a terminal line that is- they are not designed to be bred and usually wont breed true.
what this means in practice- and these arnet the actual parent breeds involved – (no one knows what they are as the gentetics are like the eleven seceret herbs and spices. though there is a lot of talk and everyone thinks the know the genetics involved :D)
If I take a pure breed RIR rooster and cross him over a Barred plymouth rock hen, I will get a sex linked chick, females will end up black, males barred (that may lay better than the parent birds)
I can dispose of all the male chicks on hatching – this saves the cost of feeding them, when all the girls are mature and start laying I then take the best layers and cross them with a white leghorn rooster or simialr laying breed, again these can be sex linked girls brown boys white ( I thinks) on hatching,
The resulting female off spring of this cross should lay like blazes and this is what I then trade mark and sell the “Roogz” keeping the RIR x Rock females and White leghorn male to breed the next batch of “Roogz”
so the hybrid parent stock of the lowan is a totally different looking bird to the commercial end product.
to take this further if I then sell some “Roogz” to a backyard breeder who uses her own rooster over them the resulting chicks could possible end up looking like RIR, Plymouth rocks, Leghorns, the rooster that she used or any combiunation in between.
Pearl- the wyandotte is a dual purpose bird- so will usually come back into lay a little latter than the purley laying breeds so by mid august at the latest the should also go broody at least once if not twice during the season.
RoogzJuly 24, 2008 at 1:30 am #356058colliegirlMember
Thanks Roogz for that bit of advice. I have always had the lowmans but I now want to bred, however living in suburbia I am aware of the rooster rule and I say bugger that. So I am looking for a breed where they lay madly and the rooster does make so much noise, any advice on this? Would be much appreciated.
A woman down the road has roosters and the neighbours are quite nice about it really. So I figure I shall try. Mind you I really just want to make sure that in lean times I have hens without it costing the earth. If you know what I mean. Trying to think ahead that is. 😉
Cheers ColliegirlJuly 24, 2008 at 1:31 am #356059
Interesting learning so much from others about their chooks. I have 2 laying at the moment. Have been through most of winter. Thought Holly was going broody, but not so. One prefers to lay outside in the wind and rain??:confused: She has just started so, has her “L”plates on. Have coaxed back to nesting box.
Once you have chooks, you wonder how you lived without them. I find them easier than dogs……….and dog’s don’t give you something that you can eat. 😆
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