September 20, 2012 at 2:56 pm #525860
I have this chook,’Belly’. I thought she wasagirl, but she is making it with all the other hens and starting to look very manly. It does not crow,and i dont think it lays.
Can you have aroo that does not crow? Theboys andgirls that were born at the same time are laying and the roos were sent off to market crowing,so it is most certainly old enough to be doing one or the other.
so,A)how can i tell it’s sex??
B) can a rooster just NOT crow?
also put a pic of the whole bunch including the daddy bantam roo (the mother of the bird in question was not a bantam tho, so that may be why it is bigger than the rest) to show their size etcSeptember 20, 2012 at 4:10 pm #525861
I’ve been learning more about phytic acid in grains for the purposes of improving our family nutrition. Phytic acid (phytate) is an anti nutrient in grains, seeds, nuts and tubers that prevents absorption of minerals.
Phytic acid is reduced by soaking in an acid medium, lactofermentation, sprouting and to a limited degree by roasting and cooking. The latter is not the best as it destroys phytase, the enzyme that breaks down phytic acid.
The only animals with enough microorganisms to break down their own phytic acid are ruminants. Birds have a crop in which seeds ferment, but normally a bird will seek out food like worms etc so that they don’t suffer from mineral deficiencies which they would if dry grains comprised their main source of calories.
So traditionally farmers made a “mash” which was soaked and fermented grains which was then fed to the chickens. I am thinking that feeding my chickens dry pellets or grains must be increasing the phytate in their diet. Less minerals absorbed by the chickens means less minerals in our eggs.
So I have decided that from today I will be soaking the chicken food and fermenting it in kefir and rye flour each day. The rye flour is a little trick I have learned from the Weston Price foundation for human health. Rye flour is the highest in phytase and so it can be used to kick start the breakdown of the phytate in the other grains. Only a little needs to be added. The easiest way to do it I think is to soak a whole lot of grains in water with a bit of rye sourdough starter and kefir added. Just the sourdough would be fine too, but the kefir gives a little extra nutrition.
Some references:September 20, 2012 at 7:35 pm #525862
Vicke — I can’t open the attachements but you can have a rooster that doesn’t crow (usually if it’s intimidated by the alpha rooster and has low testosterone so also has low fertility) and you can also have a barren hen (ie. one that will never lay).September 20, 2012 at 11:47 pm #525863
Edie, thanks, so would a barron hen probably have higher testosterone and then want to mate with other hens?? Anyway, if it is possible to have a rooster that has never crowed,then i reckon it may be a boy.September 21, 2012 at 12:48 am #525864
Round hackle feather ends – it’s a pullet.
Slimline undercarriage – its a rooster.
Face – its a rooster.
Legs – its a pullet.
It it photoshopped?
If it was mine I’d be going crazy trying to decide. ; wouldn’t be able to go inside and stop looking at it.September 21, 2012 at 3:29 am #525865
Vickie which bird in your photos are you talking about? Can you post a separate pic of it? I have heard of Hoosters.September 21, 2012 at 12:18 pm #525866
Edie, it’s not photoshopped at all. Your right it is doing my head in wondering about it.
Here is another pic of the chook. not as close up. I’ll try to get some closer shots.
BW, The first pic.. it is the bird on it’s own. I just posted the second pic to show what their size sort of is. Sorry to confuseSeptember 22, 2012 at 1:34 am #525867
Hey Vickie, I’m super curious to see this chook, but can’t view your pics. Pretty please can you edit your posts and press the ‘insert’ button so you pic appears in the post? I’m totally useless in helping you determine teh sex of your bird, but I am very curious to see what everyone is talking about…..September 22, 2012 at 2:39 am #525868
Vickie, I’d definitely say that’s a rooster. No doubt in my mind. I hope that’s a happy outcome!
Haven’t read everyone’s updates. I am giving a talk on chooks tomorrow for the first time & I’m nervous! Have been doing lots of research. Hope they don’t ask me stuff I don’t know the answer to!September 22, 2012 at 2:47 am #525869
…just make it up …….that’s bound to be correct for some chook somewhere!! :laugh:
Hope it goes well! :clap:September 22, 2012 at 11:20 am #525870
Bel, I put the pics on through ‘Attachments’ then ‘add file’ below the posting box.. and then browsing for the pic in my own files. If there is a better way i’d need blow by blow instructions 🙂 :blush:September 22, 2012 at 2:19 pm #525871
Just go straight to Add File under your post.Click on that.
Then browse and find, then insert wherever you want the pic to go with your cursor.
Yoy may just be forgetting the last insert step?
I can open your pics OK but seems not everyone can.
Is that bird crowing yet? He may just be a late starter!September 23, 2012 at 11:10 am #525872
Bluewren,those instructions for pictures were perfect, hopefully everyone can see the pics now. The bird is not crowing, it’s brothers of the same age were crowing months ago. And sisters seem to be laying.
It makes normal hen worbles,maybe a little less refined. Up until we got the 2 RIR’s this bird was at the bottom of the pecking order, and often came to us for company and food, bit of a misfit i think :blink: :dry: :S
Thanks for all the replies, i had a massive weekend but hopefully will get some close shots to show feather and feet etcSeptember 23, 2012 at 11:39 am #525873
Sounds like a Hooster ……I think they do happen.
Glad the pic hints were helpful.September 23, 2012 at 12:09 pm #525874
Hooray, I can see the pics! Thanks for perservering. An odd looking bird indeed…..
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