March 23, 2013 at 7:30 pm #257690
This morning the ABC had a segment on binge drinking and what could be done about it
Plus the violence that follows
The suggestion was to shorten times you make purchase alcohol, increase the tax to make it more expensive and there was a third idea, cant remember what right now.
I think they should also consider lowering alcohol content and last but not least go back to teaching the little darling that they may have rights but for every right there is a responsability.
Never mind that we may damage their ego, consider how much they damage other people by their behaviour.
That’s my soap box for now what do others thinkMarch 23, 2013 at 7:54 pm #531886
You dont tend to see a lot of it in non anglo saxon cultures.
Interesting how alcohol isnt treated as a right of passage in a lot of European homes its just an integral part of a meal and available at a very young age not avoided until your 18.March 23, 2013 at 9:32 pm #531887
I dont agree with making it more expensive- my hubby likes to have a beer or two after work and hasnt been blind rotten drunk in about 10 years. I dont agree with making it less alcoholic either as I use vodka to make herbal remedies and need good percentages of alcohol. I dont think limiting alcohol will help with bingeing- people will just go onto other vices like chroming or drugs.
There is violence even when people are sober- I think we need to address the bigger issue as to why we are increasingly violent in general as a society.March 24, 2013 at 12:22 am #531888
Snags post=354937 wrote: You dont tend to see a lot of it in non anglo saxon cultures.
Interesting how alcohol isnt treated as a right of passage in a lot of European homes its just an integral part of a meal and available at a very young age not avoided until your 18.
I have some French friends and have seen how they treat alcohol – and they regard it as a FOOD and not a drink. It is part of the meal, and they thoroughly enjoy it from an early age. It isn’t a rite of passage and they would never dream of going out drinking.
I was also in France for a while and while everyone (almost) drinks, I never saw a single drunk, even though wine was very cheap. We need to do a big rethink and have some re-education, and perhaps removing the legal drinking age would be a good step – provided the education and rethink come first.March 24, 2013 at 12:33 am #531889
I quite like cheap alcohol too and havent been a drunken idiot since my early 20s.( a very long time ago)
I wasnt a violent drunk either.
I still like a red wine with dinner,cant remember the last time I ever got drunk and dont think I should pay more just because some idiots get drunk and violent.
It seems high priced night club drinks just means they get drunk at home before they go out.March 24, 2013 at 1:03 am #531890
Snags post=354946 wrote: I quite like cheap alcohol too and havent been a drunken idiot since my early 20s.( a very long time ago)
I don’t remember my 21st birthday because I decided that was the day I should try getting blind drunk so I would know what it was like as I hadn’t done it before. Talk about rite of passage! The trouble is I didn’t know what it was like afterwards because I couldn’t remember anything except the room spinning before I vomited and passed out.
If I’d grown up with alcohol as being a normal part of life I probably wouldn’t have done that. Would I have done something even more stupid?March 24, 2013 at 8:54 am #531891
The term ‘six o’clock swill’ was coined to describe the results of limiting time in which alcohol was available – essentially everyone went to the pub and drank as much as possible in the available time. I do think it is silly to have alcohol on sale 24 hours a day though, and reducing drive-throughs and other alcohol outlets to reasonable opening hours (say 10:00 am t0 10pm closing) would probably have a beneficial effect. After all – if you ‘have’ to have a drink before 10 in the morning it’s time you sought help.March 25, 2013 at 1:09 pm #531892
Its the Media that has caused alot of this problem by fliming and showing the idoits in full flight
In Adelaide the other night 5000 Uni students went on a pub crawl through the city streets
They crossed the main street in the Detention area.
We have probelems down here with the Schoolies every year,
none of the locals want or require them to come here
I would like to see them go up to Woomera Dentetion center, everything it there
They wouldn’t need the police they have to have down here every year.
the Toolies would be kept away and alochol wouldn’t be a problem.
the government could bus them up there in safety.
We wouldn’t have to put up with screaming idiots driving around the town at high speed.
My hubby enjoys a drink and its not fair these clowns ruin it for the decent drinkers.March 25, 2013 at 1:49 pm #531893
I too like a drink but don’t annoy my neighbors when I drink one or two!
I don’t have a lot of ready cash either.
The six o’clock swill was a disaster but do they need to be able to purchase grog well into the small wee hours?
Seems like the idea that I can do as I please but don’t you try, is too entrenched in the young ones psyche these daysMarch 25, 2013 at 9:50 pm #531894
On Today Tonight SA they had a half wit that was annoying a street performer to the point where
he was punched in the nose. He had been drinking so he felt brave
When they tired to speak to him he threatened them.
Why would you give anyone like that half wit any time on TV,
If they didn’t give him time they would start to behave themsleves.
If it was my son they would of gotten a wollop even if they are in their 30s
it shows that Mother hasn’t taught them properly.
My Mum always said what you do outside reflecks on me so behave yourselfMarch 26, 2013 at 12:52 am #531895
It’s always young people supposedly going on these drunken rampages…I know a large European family where all the males in the family have problems with alcohol. They are in their 40’s and 50’s. They drink drive (one has served time in jail for repeat offences…and they gave him his licence back!), sometimes with young children in the car, they abuse their wives – physically and verbally…not to mention two of them not being able to hold down a job due to the alcoholism.March 26, 2013 at 6:20 pm #531896
I don’t agree with blaming the parents in every case of drunkenness and stupidity or law breaking. Every child it seems, knows exactly what her/his legal ‘rights’ are and parents are in a damned if I do and damned if I don’t situation, in my opinion.
And yes it’s not just young ones who don’t give a hoot about drinking and driving and causing nuisance, there are many oldies, both men and women who do the same, again in my opinion.
I am concerned at the attitude of young ones who drink before they go to a party, and then the whole idea of a good time (for some not all I know this) is to get off-your-face-throwing-up-drunk and then to continue drinking after the throwing up episode.
With some young ones this is the only way to have ‘fun’ and if they don’t get this drunk then it has not been a fun party.
Apart from the anti-social aspect of the activities that spin off from such drunkenness there appears to be lots of sexual activity with none or little care taken to protect from pregnancy or sexually transmitted diseases, and both males and females run the risk of becoming branded as a particular type of person because of their known activity at these parties.
Of course, as has always been, the blokes come off better with an elbow in the ribs kind of hohoho whilst the girls are known as ‘easy’ and not the ones to take home to meet mum and dad, imo.
The danger that really horrifies me is the damage to their brain cells from the constant barrage of binge level alcolhol intake.
My heart bleeds for them and for the loss of brilliance lost to society for ever.March 28, 2013 at 2:46 am #531897
you’re right Bobbee…I think I’ve mentioned somewhere on ALS before about my father who has dementia. Every medical opinion has come back to binge drinking in his younger years as being the greatest contributing factor to his dementia. I don’t really remember but my mum said he would go off for days on drinking sprees and then come home, sleep it off and not remember anything. Now he is in his 80’s and cannot remember what happened 20 seconds ago 🙁
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