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Re: Help out a new tree hugger! 2 years 2 months ago #337149

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Hi,

I've just got back from overseas, but while i was in Thailand I saw a great Documentary about a Bio-Solar house that was built in Bangkok, which is mostly self sufficient. It earns money from the electricity company even after having to buy some power back to run electricity at night.

You can read more about it here:
inhabitat.com/bangkok-bio-solar-house/bi...sign-biosolal-house/

and the article continues

www.architectureweek.com/2003/0514/environment_1-2.html
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Help out a new tree hugger! 2 years 2 months ago #337109

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G'day,

I'd love to know if this dream of mine is possible. I'd love to build a sustainably, green family home on old grazing land or something. The house and garden would take up little room, with the majority being re planted native trees.

I have a few questions about it though...

Is there a way of using ALL grey water so I don't have to be connected to sewerage at all? Trying to get out of a sewerage bill on the rates notice.

Is there a Bio-loo that uses water to flush, treats waste so that the black water can go on a garden of natives and solids get composted?

I was thinking about a system where I have a rainwater tank and a grey water tank. But....rain water can also go into the grey water, and this tank is connected to toilet flushing and the garden. The "rain water only" tank is also connected to the toilet flushing....but also to the washing machine. So basically, the dunny feeds from the rain water....if there is know rain, it feeds from the grey water tank..., the washing machine feeds from the rain, but if that tank is empty, gets its water from mains.

^^^I hope that was understandable :)

These tanks are also able to be hooked up to the garden. (obviously no grey on the veggies.)

Enjoying the info off this site.

Cheers
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Re: Help out a new tree hugger! 2 years 2 months ago #337111

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I don't know all the answers but there is a place in Brunswick "Ceres" that could possibly answer them I can't find their web page. Found it www.ceres.org.au/
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Re: Help out a new tree hugger! 2 years 2 months ago #337113

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Welcome to ALS Coops.There will likely be someone who can answer your questions.All the best for your plans.
Want what you have. Do what you can. Be who you are.

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Re: Help out a new tree hugger! 2 years 2 months ago #337123

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ballamara wrote:
I don't know all the answers but there is a place in Brunswick "Ceres" that could possibly answer them I can't find their web page. Found it www.ceres.org.au/

Had a quick look, what a great site. thanks!

And cheers Blue, your posts look very interesting. Looking forward to reading more

Coops
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Re: Help out a new tree hugger! 2 years 2 months ago #337124

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g'day coops,

don't store grey water it will only go smelly at least maybe percolates some extra bacteria that was not there in the first place, use the right detergents and grey water can be fed to gardens and trees fresh as.

my option would then be a dry system nature-loo

we wash dishes by hand in a bowl helps get water into a bucket and outside.

you are in the planning stage or it is already built? if planning then your council bi-laws will play a big part in what you can do.

oh! not sure if you have a quest to live among the gum trees? not advisable they need to be app' 60 meters at least away from your infrastructure particularly house, 100 meters might be better.

we researched and designed our sustainable place we built.

www.lensgarden.com.au/your_land_baron_dreams.html

www.lensgarden.com.au/eco'_home_essay.htm

good luck

len
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Re: Help out a new tree hugger! 2 years 1 month ago #340113

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G'day Coops and welcome to ALS.

Where abouts are you located?

For the Grey-water treatment, check with your local council as to what their requirements are.
Yes, it is a bunch of bureaucratic red tape nonsense, but they can be a real pain otherwise.
My block has no services either so I am looking at getting a reed-bed,
www.google.com.au/search?client=safari&r...tbT_ilFJCtiQecnbD_Cw
(could be narrowed down, depending on location/state),but to answer your question, yes there are several onsite water treatment systems to deal with your situation.
www.google.com.au/search?client=safari&r...petbT9vBLoOwiQeL_JUq

and grey water on 'above-ground' veggies should be fine :)

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Re: Help out a new tree hugger! 1 year 11 months ago #342639

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Sorry, I've been off a while.

Len, Just ideas at the moment.

Cheers for the links Andre.

This plan is maybe 2 years away, got a bit on in the meantime. Loving the forums and getting heaps of ideas!

Cheers
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Re: Help out a new tree hugger! 1 year 11 months ago #342640

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Everything you described is possible, just try and use as much gravity as you can its free.
Spend a fair bit of time in planning to get it right.
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Re: Help out a new tree hugger! 1 year 11 months ago #342656

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I could be totally wrong on this, but my understanding was you have to pay sewage if its available to you regardless of if you are connected or not. Maybe check with your council if you haven't already?
Great plan though! :tup:
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Re: Help out a new tree hugger! 1 year 11 months ago #342658

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I pretty sure that is the case gypsyoak, at least in SA it is. Same with water, if it runs past your place you pay for it regardless of whether you use it or not.
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Re: Help out a new tree hugger! 1 year 11 months ago #342659

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I think you pay for a 'service charge', but not for any usage ... :shrug:
"Some times I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it."

"Time is Nature's way of preventing everything happening at once"...
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Re: Help out a new tree hugger! 1 year 11 months ago #342668

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a bit off topic, but we paid for rubbish collection in our rates when we didn't have any collection services available for us. so it would not surprise me that they would charge for the service even if you don't get it :whistle:
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Re: Help out a new tree hugger! 1 year 11 months ago #342691

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Oh wow, is that even legal. A bit rude either way! Death and taxes situation I guess.
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Re: Help out a new tree hugger! 1 year 11 months ago #342694

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We have a "septreat" septic system, all the household water goes into it, gets treated and then pumps out all the treated water to the garden through a driper system. Probably not exactly what you are after, but if you were going down this path then it needs electricity (to pump the untreated sewerage between the different stages/chambers and to then pump the clean (treated) water through the irrigation system.

Also by law it needs to be "serviced" by a licenced service technician every three months. We have been paying around the $80 mark each time for this, and if we dont do it the council comes chasing us. But I have heard some councils dont even bother about chasing it up.

Oh and welcome to ALS, I too have always had a dream of doing this sort of thing, but at the moment thats all it is, for now its a compromise of living on a big block and trying to do as much as possible with that whilst still living a "normal" lifestyle.
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